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  1. All this talk about the importance of life. Where do we draw the line? The 19 year old is nothing more than a common thief and should be dealt like one. He has to know that other people's property isn't his, therefore he is nothing more than a common thief. He did not have respect for the property of another. I applauded the property owner. Harsh yes, was it the correct action, yes.

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    What are the links to those "other boards"? I'd like to read some other boards for more gun and shooting info. That is,if you don't mind sharing the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelcarry View Post
    Hey Mobuck: I understand your comments on "stuff" and how hard you worked to accumulate it and how much it means to you and how outrageous it is for someone to just take it, but in the same breath, as I said in my last post, if you die trying to save the "stuff"--well that makes less sense to me; talking this up on a forum and doing battle with someone who may be better armed and better prepared than you, are two very different scenarios and although I can appreciate "ridding" this world of these slimy perps, shooting them in the back or saying hello and just firing away as they turn ( I doubt whether your or I are going to "face down" someone in our house mano y mano) IMO is not Castle Doctrine although in SC it probably is. Don't get me wrong--I'm all for making sure anyone who is a slimy perp being taught a "proper" lesson--I just do not think that is me.
    Hey Scouse: The 19 year old was wounded but was not killed
    Good lesson, even better all around that he did not die, home owner relieved, 19 year old has time to change his ways.

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    Hey rsdonb: A I said in my last post, I will not argue about a "proper" punishment for a thief. You do what you gotta do and I do what I gotta do--its all about some degree of conscience and, as I said, an appreciation of your limitations with a firearm going up against someone who may be a lot better than you--once you are dead, I tend to think you made a bad choice about teaching the thief a lesson. In most cases, the thieves eventually get caught either that day or thru pawn shops where the goods go in exchange for dollars (these thiefs are not the brightest bulbs and probably need the money for drugs) and end up with some form of punishment.
    Hey GOV: We had a good time the other day. We'll do it again. Some sites to look at and register on:
    Gunandgame; defensivecarry; concealedcarry; firingline; handgunforum; mouseguns; rimfirecentral---Have fun!!
    Hey Y'all: Newest SC defensive shooting: Last night an army guy with family was moving thru SC in a 2 vehicle caravan with a trailer. Had trouble with the vehicle pulling the trailer and pulled off I95 in Walterboro (famous for its continuing gun battles literally everyday) to put the trailer on the other vehicle. Once stopped and working on transfer a sedan pulled up, a guy got out with a cloth over face and pointing a big cal desert eagle at him. The army guy was CC with a CCWP and immediately pulled out his firearm and shot the perp who dropped his firearm. The other guys in the sedan apparently opened fire and the army guy returned fire but no one else was injured. They arrested the slime at a hospital. Brave army guy---I'm not so sure any of us (other than those who REALLY know how to respond), facing a big gun like that would be inclined to pull out a gun. Nonetheless, another SC story that ended well for CC and defense.

  6. Hey KELCARRY, Your response may be reasonable except they are very seldom caught, and if they are, a lawyer will have them back on the street in less time than it takes me to type this. Why are you carrying a weapon? Is because you feel it is needed, I think so. A thief is a person that will take what ever they want or in some cases just because they like to steal. The item that is stolen is in most cases just handy. This person will at a moments notice steal your life with out any feeling for you or your family. Do not forget that our prisons are full of thieves, I personally will nor stand and watch while the products and property I have worked for all of my 70 years are taken just because it seems the thing to do. I have in most cases obtained them for my children and grandchildren.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsdonb View Post
    Hey KELCARRY, Your response may be reasonable except they are very seldom caught, and if they are, a lawyer will have them back on the street in less time than it takes me to type this. Why are you carrying a weapon? Is because you feel it is n k so. A thief is a person that will take what ever they want or in some cases just because they like to steal. The item that is stolen is in most cases just handy. This person will at a moments notice steal your life with out any feeling for you or your family. Do not forget that our prisons are full of thieves, I personally will nor stand and watch while the products and property I have worked for all of my 70 years are taken just because it seems the thing to do. I have in most cases obtained them for my children and grandchildren.
    I know how you feel and I understand what you are saying. The problem is, the LAW doesn't see it that way. Doing what you are saying will land YOU in jail, not the perp. I know it doesn't make sense, and it isn't right. But wishing it was different, and taking action like it was different, is going to get you in BIG trouble. You have to deal with things they way there are, not the way you want them to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelcarry View Post
    Hey rsdonb: A I said in my last post, I will not argue about a "proper" punishment for a thief. You do what you gotta do and I do what I gotta do--its all about some degree of conscience and, as I said, an appreciation of your limitations with a firearm going up against someone who may be a lot better than you--once you are dead, I tend to think you made a bad choice about teaching the thief a lesson. In most cases, the thieves eventually get caught either that day or thru pawn shops where the goods go in exchange for dollars (these thiefs are not the brightest bulbs and probably need the money for drugs) and end up with some form of punishment.
    Hey GOV: We had a good time the other day. We'll do it again. Some sites to look at and register on:
    Gunandgame; defensivecarry; concealedcarry; firingline; handgunforum; mouseguns; rimfirecentral---Have fun!!
    Hey Y'all: Newest SC defensive shooting: Last night an army guy with family was moving thru SC in a 2 vehicle caravan with a trailer. Had trouble with the vehicle pulling the trailer and pulled off I95 in Walterboro (famous for its continuing gun battles literally everyday) to put the trailer on the other vehicle. Once stopped and working on transfer a sedan pulled up, a guy got out with a cloth over face and pointing a big cal desert eagle at him. The army guy was CC with a CCWP and immediately pulled out his firearm and shot the perp who dropped his firearm. The other guys in the sedan apparently opened fire and the army guy returned fire but no one else was injured. They arrested the slime at a hospital. Brave army guy---I'm not so sure any of us (other than those who REALLY know how to respond), facing a big gun like that would be inclined to pull out a gun. Nonetheless, another SC story that ended well for CC and defense.
    WE had a great time,didn't we? I've got to get a lot better to shoot as well as you, but you set the bar for me now> LOL! BTW, I found that coupon in the East Cooper section of the paper. It's in the wallet now.

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    Hey rsdonb: I understand everything you had to say in your post. Having said that let me address some of your comments based on my previous posts.
    1. Most thieves do get caught--they are usually stupid drug heads looking for anything they can pawn for $$. They are smash and grab addicts and do get caught.
    2. You indicate that they would just as soon rob you of your life as they would rob you of your "stuff". If you go out to confront them and they are better with their shooting ability and have better weaponry, you are right. Again, I understand your frustration and anger but you being killed over "stuff" does not make sense and sure as heck will not make sense to the children you mention who, I'm sure, would rather have their father and grandfather instead of his "stuff". You keep your bedroom door locked and secure, you have your cellphone for 911, you have your car keys/emergency alarm to activate the car alarm and lights, you have your 12g or pistol, and you wait in your bedroom--if they try to come in, they will not come out the same way. You have your insurance agent's name and phone number and you can always purchase brand new replacements for whatever the smash and grab perps took.
    We really are on the same page here. It is easy to say things at your computer but the reality check of what you are saying could result in your demise and, I'm sorry, over "stuff"---it is not worth it.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by kelcarry View Post
    Hey Gov and FN: Reading the last few replies, a light bulb went off in my head when GOV complained that there was nothing he could do over the car theft scenario. In reality, if you feel you are good enough for it (armed with a big gun and very proficient at using it), there does not seem to be a reason why you should not be able to go outside and confront some slime with a "what the hell do you think you are doing?" It is your property and you, I would think, have a right to question someone who is fooling with your stuff. If the slime now turns on you and puts you in the "imminent danger" mode, you can defend yourself. I stand corrected on my previous comments. I believe the old man had every right to go outside and confront slime boy--it is his car and his property and by god he has a right to ask "what the hell do you think you are doing?"; I would think that this is the reason no charges were brought. If, as in this case, slime boy is slow to respond and does so in a manner that is a "reasonable" threat to "imminent danger", slime boy can suffer the consequences, which he did. YOU SHOULD AT LEAST CALL 911 AS A PRUDENT INITIAL EFFORT, and you should be aware that slime boy could be packin bigger than you and may be better at than you. Personally, "stuff" is not worth my life to find out that slime boy is indeed better at this "gun thing" than me, as I lie there dying.
    It took you 7 pages of lecturing and blathering to realize that anyone has the right to question someone that is on or messing with their property? Not everyone locks themselves in a room and waits for someone else to take care of their business or come see what every little noise is outside. There is nothing wrong with checking things out yourself prior to calling 911 and doing it armed. When you do find out what is going on and the situation presents itself where you need to protect yourself, there is nothing wrong with that either. You can't dial 911 and lock yourself in a bedroom for every little noise your hear in the middle of the night. I wonder what my wife would think of me then....

    As far as a BG being better prepared, have you checked the statistics? More times than not a BG has zero experience or training with a firearm and won't hit what he shoots at if he even gets the chance. Everyone has the right to own firearms, but some need a little more training than others. Just a note, if you are locking yourself in your bedroom and say you are going to shoot someone that tries to get in, do yourself a favor and identify your target before you fire your weapon. You could be the one being charged if you shoot through the door.

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    Hey lifeguardhall: Your are in a land of what ifs and total paranoia. Have at it--do what you want--don't lecture me with your ridicule and better than me attitude. Just one time that you are wrong I live to see daylight and you do not. ITS JUST STUFF FOR GOD SAKES. Just love it when all of you brave guys sit at your computer in your underwear and are the next coming of Dirty Harry.

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