URGENT - HB 517 OC Bill passes last committee!
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  1. Exclamation URGENT - HB 517 OC Bill passes last committee!

    House Bill 517 overwhelmingly passed the House Judiciary Committee this morning on it's final stop before hitting the house floor. The overriding contention was that the opposition could cite no cases in which OC was an issue in any other state where it is law. It was difficult to hear all the votes, but I counted only about four or five no votes. Rep. Julien (D-Miami) voted in favor!
    Rich - MSgt, USAF, Ret.
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    Jan 2008
    Florida Panhandle

    I'm glad I sent those emails...

    looks like we are having a positive impact as responsible citizens

  4. [Sarcasm] Oh no law abiding citizens openly carrying guns and in Florida?! Chaos is sure to ensue! [/End] Glad to see this is making progress in the right direction. Thanks for the update.

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    Vote was 14 - 4

    I have already sent e-mails to both YES and NO voters.. Please do the same..

    From NRAILA.org

    **REPORT on ROUND 12 **
    HELP Restore Rights to Concealed Weapons License Holders in Florida

    Includes Concealed Weapons License Open-Carry, Campus-Carry, Guns-In-Vehicles and Purchase of Long Guns in other states

    DATE: March 24, 2011
    TO: USF & NRA Members and Friends
    FROM: Marion P. Hammer
    USF Executive Director
    NRA Past President

    House Bill 517, introduced by state Representative Chris Dorworth (R) was heard today in the House Judiciary Committee today and PASSED by a 14 to 4 vote.

    HB 517 would make much needed changes to the Florida "Right-to-Carry" law -- also known as the Concealed Weapons Licensing law and it would also conform Florida’s firearms purchase law with federal law.

    This Committee NEEDS to Hear From You. This committee did not get enough e-mails from you and some were a little shaky when they voted. PLEASE SEND THEM E-MAIL THANKING THEM FOR VOTING IN FAVOR OF HB 517.

    PLEASE IMMEDIATELY E-MAIL Members of the House Judiciary Committee who voted for HB 517 -- They NEED TO HEAR FROM YOU NOW!

    In the subject line put:

    THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING HB-517 -- to RESTORE 2nd Amendment Rights

    (Block and Copy All email addresses into the "Send To" box)

    [email protected],
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    Below are the 4 committee members who voted against the bill:

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    # 1.The open carry provision addresses the problem of an accidental or unintentional exposure of a firearm being carried by a concealed weapons license holder. As silly as it may sound, if a license holder is carrying a concealed firearm and the wind blows a jacket or shirt open exposing the firearm, the person can be charged with a crime for violating the open carry law. Anytime a license holder accidentally or unintentionally exposes the firearm whether reaching for something on a top shelf or bending over to pick up something, he/she can be charged with a crime. This bill fixes that problem.

    The cries of anti-gunners with predictions of horrible things resulting from "open carry" are pure nonsense. Adding the provision of open carry for concealed weapons license holders will NOT present problems. While some gun haters may not want to remove this needless restriction, there have been no problems in other states.

    According to the anti-gun Brady Campaign, 46 states allow open carry. Of those, 34 states allow open carry without a permit or license while 12 states require a permit to carry openly. (FLORIDA TODAY 1/7/2011, Change Would Relax Handgun Law - Byline: Kaustuv Basu)

    What the spokesperson (Brian Malte, State Legislative Director) for the Brady Campaign -- the national gun ban group -- said is that open carry COULD BE TROUBLESOME. He said "Open carrying of loaded guns is problematic for public safety and for law enforcement. It is frightening to see people carrying loaded weapons in urban and suburban environments."

    What the Brady Campaign fails to report is that open carry is not now, nor has it ever been a problem. Only four states, including Florida, prohibit open carry. It's time to remove this unnecessary government restriction in Florida.

    Adding "open carry" for concealed weapons license holders to the law to avoid the "open carry" glitch doesn't mean they will carry openly.


    #2. This bill simply says that if a person has a concealed weapons license, nothing shall prohibit the carry or storage of a firearm in a vehicle -- except the exemptions in the Florida parking lot law.

    For example, many of you will remember the case last summer of a cemetery that arbitrarily banned guns on cemetery property.

    And you'll remember the distraught father, who had already buried his son in that cemetery. The father has a concealed weapons license and always carries a firearm in his truck and frequently visits his son's grave.

    Advised of the new gun ban by the cemetery, the father was given three choices: (1) stop carrying a firearm in his vehicle, (2) face arrest for trespassing with a firearm (a felony) or (3) move his son's body to another cemetery (which might later ban guns as well). Those choices are outrageous. This bill fixes that outrageous denial of Second Amendment rights.


    #3.This bill repeals the obsolete language in s. 790.28, which limits purchase of rifles and shotguns to contiguous states and replaces it with language that will make it possible for Florida residents to purchase rifles and shotguns in non-contiguous states.
    In 1979, s. 790.28 was passed to conform to federal law. At the time, federal law required the contiguous state language to be passed in order for residents to be able to exercise their right to purchase long guns in adjoining states.

    Federal law has since changed to allow the purchase of long guns in any state through a licensed federal firearms dealer. However, in order for Florida residents to be able to exercise those rights, s. 790.28 must be repealed and conforming language must be added to Florida’s statutes. This bill does that.

    Gulf Coast, Floriduh
    Sccy is the limit

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