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  1. Moving from Ny to FL

    I have a NY concealed permit plus non resident permit in Fl and UT.
    Is it necessary to inform or will I be asked by an appartment complex or a house renter in Fl as to if I have a gun?
    I will be driving down to Fl from NY. I know the reprocity laws. Will a motel I'm staying at ask m during registration process if I am carrying a gun?
    If any of the above how do I answer?
    thank you.

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    Granted I live on the west coast, I've never had a motel or apartment ask me about firearms.
    “One of the illusions of life is that the present hour is not the critical, decisive one.” – Ralph Waldo Emerson

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    Why would they ask? And even if they do, you are under no obligation to inform them. We travel regularly to FL from NY to our home there and have never been asked if we have weapons at any hotel.

    I realize you have knowledge of all the reciprocity laws, but I print and take copies of the state regs for the states we will be traveling through from handgunlaw.us in an envelope conveniently stashed in the map pocket. While I know which states I can carry and where I can't, I also assume that not every local sheriff or State Trooper won't know all of regs, especially when it comes to reciprocity. I don't want to be involved in one of those "arrest first...check the laws later" scenarios. Plus, it's always good to get the latest updates before traveling....like PA's recent change whereby they no longer honor non-resident permits from FL or UT (or anywhere else for that matter).

    We always take our weapons into the room with us, but feel no need to inform or publicize that we have weapons. The copies of state regs also have headers indicating whether the state is a "Must Inform LEO" state. (Note: Must Inform applies to LEO ONLY) We always stay in states who honor our FL non-res permits, so if we have to take the dog out in the middle of the night, we're not alone in a parking lot or landscaped area nearby.

    As for house or apartment rentals... if they do a background check, it may or may not come up....but realize that you don't need a permit to buy a gun in Florida and can have it in your home or car(as an extension of your 'home') for your own personal security. You only need a ccw permit to carry it on your person. So, it's likely the people renting you the home or apartment have weapons themselves.

    Just remember the word CANT...Carry Always Never Tell... (except LEO where REQUIRED BY LAW).... Why would you tip your hand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayTea View Post
    I have a NY concealed permit plus non resident permit in Fl and UT.
    Is it necessary to inform or will I be asked by an appartment complex or a house renter in Fl as to if I have a gun?
    I will be driving down to Fl from NY. I know the reprocity laws. Will a motel I'm staying at ask m during registration process if I am carrying a gun?
    If any of the above how do I answer?
    thank you.
    first off congratulations on your escape from that evil place, to answer your other questions NO! you do not ever inform anyone that you are carrying or in possession of a gun with the exception being in many states like NC and SC you are obligated to inform any cop that you interact with immediately that you are carrying on your person a gun, if it is stowed as per fopa you do not need to inform anyone.
    in addition to knowing the reciprocity laws you need to learn where you can and cannot carry a firearm in each state you are passing through, each state is slightly different, go to Handgunlaw.us and study up on ALL the laws in every state you plan on passing through, good luck and safe trip

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrs View Post
    Pennsylvania DOES honor Non-Resident permits from Florida!!!! Look it up.
    I looked it up and as far as I can tell, you are incorrect: PA does NOT honor non-resident permits from FL, only resident permits.
    http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploa...florida_pa.pdf

    It seems clear to me. Am I missing something or looking in the wrong place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayTea View Post
    I have a NY concealed permit plus non resident permit in Fl and UT.
    Is it necessary to inform or will I be asked by an appartment complex or a house renter in Fl as to if I have a gun?
    I will be driving down to Fl from NY. I know the reprocity laws. Will a motel I'm staying at ask m during registration process if I am carrying a gun?
    If any of the above how do I answer?
    thank you.
    Welcome to FL - so far we still have our rights, although some people are working hard to try to change that. And, no, no one will ask.
    Si vis pacem para bellum

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    re: PA,
    I am not certain about the changes but I do know that PA has recently changed it's laws about non resident permits, but clarification from those who know better is in order because it is my belief that the changes only affects PA residents. many PA residents were using out of state permits to get around local permit rules or rejections.

    YMMV

    this is not legal advice that could or should be taken seriously because I don't even play a lawyer in my dreams.

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    [QUOTE=MartyH;428365]
    Quote Originally Posted by CapGun View Post

    I looked it up and as far as I can tell, you are incorrect: PA does NOT honor non-resident permits from FL, only resident permits.
    http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploa...florida_pa.pdf

    It seems clear to me. Am I missing something or looking in the wrong place?
    This will make it more clear and accurate.

    Press: The Attorney General's Press Office - Pennsylvania Office of Attorney General
    NOTICE FROM ATTORNEY GENERAL KATHLEEN G. KANE

    The Attorney General of Pennsylvania has entered into a modification of the current firearm reciprocity agreement with the state of Florida. This reciprocity agreement previously permitted citizens of Pennsylvania who were not also Florida residents to obtain a Concealed Carry Permit (hereinafter "CCP") from the state of Florida. The CCP would then be honored in Pennsylvania without the need for a CCP granted by a Pennsylvania issuing authority. This agreement has been modified as follows pursuant to the authority of the Attorney General of Pennsylvania as found in 18 Pa.C.S. § 6109(k)(1):
    1. If you are currently a resident of Pennsylvania only and have a CCP from the state of Florida, your Florida permit will no longer be recognized in Pennsylvania 120 days from the date of this Notice, or on June 8, 2013. In the proscribed time period you may apply for a CCP in the county of your residence. Please be aware that your local Sheriff or Police Department (in cities of the First Class) will have forty-five (45) days from the date of your application on which to grant or deny your application for a CCP.
    2. If you are a dual resident of Pennsylvania and Florida you need not apply for a CCP in Pennsylvania if you currently hold a CCP from Florida. You must, however, carry with you proof of your Florida citizenry/residence along with your CCP identification when you are carrying a concealed firearm either on your person or in a vehicle.
    3. If you are a resident of Florida only and have a CCP from Florida it will continue to be honored in Pennsylvania with all the same rights and recognition as contained in the Reciprocity Agreement between said States.
    IMPORTANT
    This Notice does not impact the validity of Pennsylvania CCP's issued to residents of Pennsylvania. All valid and unexpired Pennsylvania CCP's remain in full force and effect. Further, if you are a resident of Pennsylvania only and have a CCP from Pennsylvania it will continue to be honored in Florida with all the same rights and recognition as contained in the Reciprocity Agreement between said States.



    Now the reason for this is because in Philadelphia which is in Pennsylvania which is a shall issue state.
    There is a preemption law in effect. That means that even a city can not overrule state gun laws.
    The geniuses in Libtard Philly don't want to give out carry permits. That is against the law.
    They try to get around this by NOT staffing the city dept. that handles the processing of CCPs. Someone the Sheriffs Dept.
    Sooo the law was that even if you lived in Pa. and did not have a carry permit from the Pennsylvania (primary reason being you couldn't get one from Philly where you lived or in rare instances any other reason Pa. wouldn't give you one) you could get a non resident permit from Florida and use it in your home state of Pennsylvania.
    The main impetus for this change in the Florida/Pennsylvania was the Libs in Philly.
    OK you are not totally wrong and I guess I am not totally correct. This should make it clear for sure. I will delete my previous post and hide my mistake!
    The only states that Pennsylvania does not recognize unless they are resident permits are: Res Permits Only:

    Colorado, Florida, Maine, Michigan, New Hampshire



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  10. They couldn't make it harder, could they? Glad I don't live in Philly!

    Thanks for the correction/clarification.

  11. Thanks everyone for your answers. I just purchased an IPhone app to see state laws. I will be driving from NY to FL with my
    Pistols in June. Looks like I95 all the way. I did not realize PA no longer recognizes UT or FL non resident permits anymore.
    Two years ago they did.
    I think as long as my guns and ammo are locked in a case in my car beyond my reach, I am safe in any state as long as I am just passing thru.
    I would just take then to my hotel room in a gun friendly state along the way.
    Now, just have to figure out what state along the way to rest.
    I think I will be happy in FL vs NY!

    Sorry about the question I asked about should I inform hotel check in that I have a gun. I have not traveled very much.

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