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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptAmerica View Post
    Great stuff.

    Right now we are looking at either a Ruger LCP or a Bersa Thunder. Still stumped on the carry method. She is not a big fan of off body carry. Her mother had her purse snatched in a parking lot by a guy hanging out of a car window driving by. The thought of someone taking her gun is not comfortable.

    I think she likes the super tuck with jeans, just not sure what she will do in slacks/sweats/ or dresses yet.

    We are getting there, keep the great ideas coming!!
    My wife has shot and is familiar with both the Bersa, LCP and other 380acp handguns. She'll tell you it's Bersa hands down!

    There are benefits of a super small pocket gun like the LCP; especially when it comes to womens body hugging fashions and use as a BUG.

    BUT!!!

    My wife will also tell you that she wants a little more gun when she is out alone or with the kids.

    IMO; I would tell her to buy TWO hand guns. A mid-size for everyday carry in 380acp; 9mm or larger AND a small gun like an LCP, Kahr or Kel-tec for dress up; dating and special occassions when a larger hg isn't practical.

    IF buying two guns is not an option, my wife will tell you that you can't go wrong with a Bersa 380. I would concur that it would be one of my first choices as a "compromise" between a good everyday carry and a BUG.

    As far as holsters go:
    There is really nothing wrong with having several. We use several different ones from a cheap "Uncle Mikes" to a "Supertuck" and "Smartcarry" to more expensive Leather IWB holsters. We've just discovered different holsters work better under different situations.

    Incidently;
    My wifes overall favorite holster is a cheap but comfortable "Uncle Mikes". My overall favorite is the "Smartcarry" for summer and a cheap "Maverick Tuckable" for winter. (These are the "ONLY" two holsters I actually forget I have on.)

    I will tell you that a "Smartcarry" can nicely conceal a Bersa and two extra magazines under "most" clothing except skin tight jeans and tight dresses. (Sweats and normal dresses included)

    A garter holster and LCP work well under a body hugging dress; and my wife usually carrys her Bersa 380 in a cheap "Uncle Mikes" in her tighter jeans and slacks.

    I hope this has been helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcox4freedom View Post
    My wife has shot and is familiar with both the Bersa, LCP and other 380acp handguns. She'll tell you it's Bersa hands down!

    There are benefits of a super small pocket gun like the LCP; especially when it comes to womens body hugging fashions and use as a BUG.

    BUT!!!

    My wife will also tell you that she wants a little more gun when she is out alone or with the kids.

    IMO; I would tell her to buy TWO hand guns. A mid-size for everyday carry in 380acp; 9mm or larger AND a small gun like an LCP, Kahr or Kel-tec for dress up; dating and special occassions when a larger hg isn't practical.

    IF buying two guns is not an option, my wife will tell you that you can't go wrong with a Bersa 380. I would concur that it would be one of my first choices as a "compromise" between a good everyday carry and a BUG.

    As far as holsters go:
    There is really nothing wrong with having several. We use several different ones from a cheap "Uncle Mikes" to a "Supertuck" and "Smartcarry" to more expensive Leather IWB holsters. We've just discovered different holsters work better under different situations.

    Incidently;
    My wifes overall favorite holster is a cheap but comfortable "Uncle Mikes". My overall favorite is the "Smartcarry" for summer and a cheap "Maverick Tuckable" for winter. (These are the "ONLY" two holsters I actually forget I have on.)

    I will tell you that a "Smartcarry" can nicely conceal a Bersa and two extra magazines under "most" clothing except skin tight jeans and tight dresses. (Sweats and normal dresses included)

    A garter holster and LCP work well under a body hugging dress; and my wife usually carrys her Bersa 380 in a cheap "Uncle Mikes" in her tighter jeans and slacks.

    I hope this has been helpful.
    +1 on the Bersa Thunder. I love mine!

    I wish she had the budget to get two guns, and eventually - like all of us, she will get more I am sure.
    I agree about having several holsters too. I have two favorites, an uncle mikes, and a super tuck. I think she will want several depending on what she is wearing.

    The ideas and suggests have been great, keep them coming. I am a single dad and the info is a great help as I help my child get more comfortable with the idea of carrying.
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    When my GF and I first got into guns, we took a training course that included some videos. In those, the woman's story had her drawing from her purse. It showed her practicing, and included a scene acted out where she actually had to draw on a potential mugger.

    From that, we gathered that that's how women carried - special purses. It never occurred to us that a woman would actually consider some kind of holster.

    My GF looked at several, and had difficulty finding one that was functional and still reasonably fashionable. But, she ended up with one she can live with.

    Carrying is one thing. Concealment is another. Neither of us has a problem with carrying, but neither of us do because of the compromises required to conceal. I would think women would be especially reluctant to make the fashion concessions necessary to concealed carry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullitt View Post
    I would think women would be especially reluctant to make the fashion concessions necessary to concealed carry.
    I'm not looking for an argument, but that's a pretty hefty assumption and I'm not buying into that generalization, sorry. Where there's a will, there's a way. If there's no will, then okay. Fashion should be absolutely no deterrent to safety. There are too many choices out there for cc for both men and women. I don't think that each and every holster, holder, or whatever that is available for men or women are all especially the most comfortable items possible, neither are shoes. We learn to live with things. If fashion is the foremost thought on the brain then safety is taking a back seat. Not acceptable imho. If a woman really wanted to carry and is not just talked into carry, they would work out a way to accomplish it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdcleanfun View Post
    I just sent this message to Luke. I'll let you know when I hear back from him.
    Luke put a new Forum online: Women & Guns

    Thanks, Luke!

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    My wife was in the same situation when she turned 21. We started her off with the SP-101. 5 shot, smaller and if it mis-fires, just pull the trigger again. I was concerned in a stressful situation with this being her first firearm in the stress of the moment if a semi didnt fire would she have the presents of mind to grab the slide and start over, or just "freak".
    It worked out as she has moved from that to first a Ruger 90DC, and now a H&KP2000 sub compact. She has tried many different holsters, but regularly carries in a purse. Not the best off person, but the best in her work situation. She was never happy with the purses out there, and just last month made a purse herself with a hard shell in the bottom and a formed holster from the material to hold the firearm in a draw position.Oh and to the other question about size, 5'9.5" 105 lbs. So any firearm on her either digs into her or prints like a billboard "Hey everybody, I am carrying".
    She is now an NRA instructor and specializes in teaching women for their CCW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdcleanfun View Post
    I'm not looking for an argument, but that's a pretty hefty assumption and I'm not buying into that generalization, sorry. Where there's a will, there's a way. If there's no will, then okay. Fashion should be absolutely no deterrent to safety. There are too many choices out there for cc for both men and women. I don't think that each and every holster, holder, or whatever that is available for men or women are all especially the most comfortable items possible, neither are shoes. We learn to live with things. If fashion is the foremost thought on the brain then safety is taking a back seat. Not acceptable imho. If a woman really wanted to carry and is not just talked into carry, they would work out a way to accomplish it.
    Well, you found an argument. :)

    You're projecting your set of priorities onto others. You place safety above fashion. Good for you. But, you can't tell me that for the vast majority of women, fashion doesn't weigh heavily into any decision regarding concealment.

    I did not talk my GF into anything. She is the one who wanted to get into this, not me. It's because of her that I got into it. But, she learned that there's a whole lot more to this than she realized at first.

    Again, the presumption was that women used purses to carry their weapons. Granted, that's not necessarily true, but I can guarantee you that my GF will choose to not carry if she has to wear and conceal a holster. Fact of life. And I can guarantee you that there are many others out there of the same opinion. For most women, I submit that they think "it's not worth it".

    You may disagree with her priorities, but you can't deny that fashion enters into the equation FAR more often for women than men. If you don't believe me, just look at some closets. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullitt View Post
    Well, you found an argument. :)

    You're projecting your set of priorities onto others. You place safety above fashion. Good for you. But, you can't tell me that for the vast majority of women, fashion doesn't weigh heavily into any decision regarding concealment.

    I did not talk my GF into anything. She is the one who wanted to get into this, not me. It's because of her that I got into it. But, she learned that there's a whole lot more to this than she realized at first.

    Again, the presumption was that women used purses to carry their weapons. Granted, that's not necessarily true, but I can guarantee you that my GF will choose to not carry if she has to wear and conceal a holster. Fact of life. And I can guarantee you that there are many others out there of the same opinion. For most women, I submit that they think "it's not worth it".

    You may disagree with her priorities, but you can't deny that fashion enters into the equation FAR more often for women than men. If you don't believe me, just look at some closets. :)
    Just a difference of opinion is all. I agree to disagree. Thanks for keeping it civil.

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    One Valentines day hubby gave me a titanium hamerless revolver. I thought it was great, lightweight until I went to the range to practice and couldn't hit the side of a barn. Traded it in for a Kimber 9mm and my accuracy improved 100%. I'm in a tactical group and the range let's us use their guns if you don't have one, it's a good idea to try different ones as people have different tastes and abilities. Don't think a revolver is dummy proof either we had two jam on two different women recently.

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    I would have to disagree on the semi/revolver if comparing same brand to same brand types (smith/smith) the chances of a semi jamming are a bit higher than a semi. The industry experts contend if it doesn't fire even the most inexperienced shooter will pull the trigger again. I do not think any gun is void of jamming, but I do know maintenance on a revolver is much easier and there is less chance on a newbie to make a mistake when reassembling after cleaning or even forgetting to clean which again is where the revolver edges ahead on the opinion.
    I know I am not as good a shot with any type of revolver that requires double-action with every pull. I understand the reason for the hammer-less, but DA only for me in the beginning would have made me question my ability.

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