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    Okay, this was about too much for me! It is a Chicago based firm that had done the surveying and later in the article Chicago is listed as one of two places in the US where handguns are illegal. Hmmmm . . . I've been around enough to know that a survey can come to whatever conclusion the surveyor wants it to.
    Reuters does say at the very top that "Bernd Debusmann is a Reuters columnist. The opinions expressed are his own" however they fail to note how MUCH of this article is his opinion--Way too much misinformation twisting!

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    ...by the rules of democratic play, one might assume that the majority would have major influence on legislation. But that's not how it works, thanks to the enormous influence of the gun lobby.
    This writer needs to be reminded that we do not live in a Democracy, but in a Republic. Just because even 99% of the people believe that one shouldn't own a firearm doesn't mean that their "vote" should influence my Rights.
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  4. Reuters is, from my understanding, a european based news service so the slant they put on things is geared towards that audience. Another thought I had was that this info was being solicited for a survey by a firm from Chicago. Now I don't know about you but if I get a question like that from someone I don't know I am not going to volunteer any info on if and how many guns I have. I have a real concern with what they plan on doing with that info. So I think no matter how they are slicing it, it's bum scoop. Just look at the number of gun sales in the US.

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    When my wife was pregnant, the doctor one day started asking us all these questions. I knew where he was headed because I knew these statistics about how "dangerous it is to have guns and kids". When he finally got around to the big question, "Do you have any guns in your house?" I responded simply "Maybe." Then he asked "If you do have guns in your house, are they loaded and easily accessible?" I said "Why don't you break in one night and find out."

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    When you actually read the survey

    the questions mostly concern enforcing existing laws. A few of the questions were interesting...

    Q. Should people who sell illegal guns receive penalties equal to or greater than selling illegal drugs?

    A. Well, I say yeah and I own about a dozen weapons so what does that prove about supporting the 2A or favoring more strict gun control?

    The question concerning sales of .50 caliber rifles seemed to feel it was necessary to explain that these guns could penetrate armor and had a range of a mile. Also it phrased the question by making comparisons to hunting rifles in such a way that it seemed biased to me.

    Others talk about permits, criminal background checks and other common laws we currently live under in many states.

    Mostly the survey seems to indicate that people feel the EXISTING laws should be enforced and perhaps have punishments strengthened but do NOT really indicate tightening of control. At least not to me.

    The sample size was 1364 (or something like that) and no margin of error is identified that I noticed. So they randomly dialed less than 1400 homes (it does not specify the percentages of out-of-town/county/state/region calls made. I doubt the nationwide drop to 35% and suspect the methodology is flawed. That seems a low number for a valid national level survey.
    Reality, DEAL with IT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mom of 3 angels View Post
    Okay, this was about too much for me! It is a Chicago based firm that had done the surveying and later in the article Chicago is listed as one of two places in the US where handguns are illegal. Hmmmm . . . I've been around enough to know that a survey can come to whatever conclusion the surveyor wants it to.
    Reuters does say at the very top that "Bernd Debusmann is a Reuters columnist. The opinions expressed are his own" however they fail to note how MUCH of this article is his opinion--Way too much misinformation twisting!
    Yes I agree the one doing the pencil pushing can make the pencil dance to any tune that the user wants to play.
    An armed society is a polite society.

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    I thought of something today.I don't normally see a reporter's emmail address at the bottom of a story.Of course,I also don't read the 'news' much either.Perhaps they knew they would get some flack from this and wanted it all to go to this mook instead of the entire agency.
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    This very article was just listed as NRA-ILA's Outrage of the Week. See their comments and some real facts here:
    http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Fe...d.aspx?id=3356

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    Easy to account for!! Chicago is located in "CROOK"(Cook) county Illinois and is subservient to "King Richard" the head of the Daley Machine! These folks have been spreading this stuff since at least around the time that old Scar Face and his crowd was running the joint! And possibly longer than that.

    And the Illinois sheeple just keep right on buying it! I guess it's difficult, and takes a long time, to fix stupid!

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    So,

    send the writer AND Reuter's (don't let them wiggle out from under puting this out on the wire for these guys) challenging their bias and agenda-driven interpretations.
    Reality, DEAL with IT!

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