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    I'm not sure but I believe that a firearm violation on Amtrak would be a Federal crime. So you're taking a big chance if you carry on Amtrak. The only good thing about that is you could probably get to the U.S. Supreme Court faster than if violated a state law. I hate to fly but at least I can take my firearm when I do. Driving is best since my TX permit is good in 32 states at last count. Except for being disarmed I love the train if I have time - they're usually not very good at adhering to their schedules. But since they don't have any screening procedures you're really taking a chance to travel on Amtrak disarmed because any would-be terrorist or 15-minute fame seeker can pretty much get onboard and be assured that there's a whole train full of sitting ducks. At least on a plane you have a reasonable expectation that they dissuaded the other passengers from carrying a weapon of any kind - except maybe a boob or buttocks bomb (see the other thread about those). So these days I always drive unless time is of the essence and then it's the plane.
    Avidshooter (Texas)
    "The real destroyer of the liberties of the people is he who spreads among them bounties, donations and benefits." -- Plutarch

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    May not be the most comfortable, but... what about taking the bus?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AvidshooterTX View Post
    I'm not sure but I believe that a firearm violation on Amtrak would be a Federal crime. So you're taking a big chance if you carry on Amtrak. The only good thing about that is you could probably get to the U.S. Supreme Court faster than if violated a state law. I hate to fly but at least I can take my firearm when I do. Driving is best since my TX permit is good in 32 states at last count. Except for being disarmed I love the train if I have time - they're usually not very good at adhering to their schedules. But since they don't have any screening procedures you're really taking a chance to travel on Amtrak disarmed because any would-be terrorist or 15-minute fame seeker can pretty much get onboard and be assured that there's a whole train full of sitting ducks. At least on a plane you have a reasonable expectation that they dissuaded the other passengers from carrying a weapon of any kind - except maybe a boob or buttocks bomb (see the other thread about those). So these days I always drive unless time is of the essence and then it's the plane.
    Amtrak reserves the right to inspect luggage, and carry on. Amtrak has their own police with sidearms. I am not sure what their powers are. If you have any pictures of female boobs or buttocks that may contain bombs post em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theicemanmpls View Post
    If you have any pictures of female boobs or buttocks that may contain bombs post em.
    Are we back to that again??? You wouldn't believe the number of times I've gotten in trouble by trying to do our country a favor and check out some of those that looked "suspect." People have become really ungrateful...

    Sorry for the hijack, JJ!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ga9mm View Post
    Are we back to that again??? You wouldn't believe the number of times I've gotten in trouble by trying to do our country a favor and check out some of those that looked "suspect." People have become really ungrateful...

    Sorry for the hijack, JJ!
    Not a problem, Ga9. Actually, I'm thinking we oughta start a company (maybe get Homeland Security grants!) called "Boobcheck, Inc." or something. I'm seeing lots of suspicious boobies around lately that should probably be cleared. Gives new meaning to the term "boobie trap", dontcha think?

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    Absolutely!! I'm all for rights, but I think in these grave times, we should reserve the right to check people at random, without consent or warrantes being an issue. I'm sure HS will go for it. I spend a lot of time in and around a few busy airports, and I feel confident they don't really know where their money is going. I would say I could retire from a job like that, but I don't think I will ever get too old to check boobs for potential dangers! It's all in the interest of public safety.

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    I'm starting to think that the boob patrol is more than a good idea, it is a necessity! I would even go so far as to volunteer for this duty. No pay is required. I will do this to protect my fellow citizens.

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    Ken Grubb
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  10. As of now -- or let's say for the sake of discussion, July -- does or does not Amtrak search (metal detector or other) a percentage of its passengers?

    Would woman boarding in Washington for California, then returning CA to WA, run the chance of being searched?

    I'm all for Don't Ask, Don't Tell, and I believe "concealed" means exactly that. I won't say how many states I've carried in. But my Beloved Better Half is planning an train trip to CA and I'd hate to see her get into trouble for having her little .357 security blanket with her...

    Has Amtrak yet implemented the new law requiring them to accept guns in checked luggage?
    “The police of a State should never be stronger or better armed than the citizenry. An armed citizenry, willing to fight is the foundation of civil freedom.” Heinlein

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamilton Felix View Post
    As of now -- or let's say for the sake of discussion, July -- does or does not Amtrak search (metal detector or other) a percentage of its passengers?

    Would woman boarding in Washington for California, then returning CA to WA, run the chance of being searched?

    I'm all for Don't Ask, Don't Tell, and I believe "concealed" means exactly that. I won't say how many states I've carried in. But my Beloved Better Half is planning an train trip to CA and I'd hate to see her get into trouble for having her little .357 security blanket with her...

    Has Amtrak yet implemented the new law requiring them to accept guns in checked luggage?
    Amtrak has the right to search. I don't know if they do so on the west coast. Amtrak police, are not federal law enforcement officers. Rather they are employee's of Amtrak who hold peace officer status in what ever state the railroad, and property of the railroad may be in.
    If you spouse has a permit to carry in WA, she would be in violation of Amtrak's rules. Not state law. If she carries in CA, most likely she will be in violation of state law, and Amtrak's rules.
    Probably the best thing to do, is leave the firearm at home. Otherwise take your chances by packing the firearm in her luggage, and hope Amtrak does not search the luggage which they have the right to do.
    Amtrak is ten steps above the Greyhound. IMO, riding the dog is horrid.
    Later on this year, it will be lawful to transport firearms on Amtrak, but it most likely will be similar to airline procedures today.

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