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  1. #11
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    AR accessories are always popular.
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  3. Several shops here in St. Louis - at one time or another I've been to them all. (We all know about the Cabelas and/or Bass Pro type shops so I won't address that here).
    I wish I could combine the best aspects of 2 of my local "Mom & Pops" while eliminating the not-so-good aspects of the others. Some issues all shops seem to have:
    1. Friendly and Knowlegable is key - we have one (rather new) shop here where the staff is somewhat "know-it-all arrogant." They won't get any of my money. Most other shops here don't have that "I am the Top Dog in the Gun Culture" mentality.
    2. Variety of product is a good thing - I know it's impossible to stock every thing for ever customer. But all shops here tend to have the same stuff in stock - Glocks, Sigs, Taurus. There are other brands out there. Everything seems to be out of the latest issue of Guns & Ammo.
    3. Prices - you are a business, I expect you to make a profit. But don't you think you could do a little better than 10% off MSRP? Give me a break! Ever hear of Supply & Demand? There's a reason why the counter at Cabelas is always crowded.

    On the plus side - I have two favorites in town that I would like to combine:
    One is the friendliest place you would ever want to go to - it's like going into Floyd's Barber Shop with guns; they even serve lunch every day! But their prices are pretty high.
    The other favorite has very competitive prices (even on special orders) but it is not as laid-back and fun.

    Just my two-cents...

  4. Quote Originally Posted by rickericn View Post
    3. Prices - you are a business, I expect you to make a profit. But don't you think you could do a little better than 10% off MSRP? Give me a break! Ever hear of Supply & Demand? There's a reason why the counter at Cabelas is always crowded.
    I don't know where people are getting their information...... but most of the local gun shops (not Gander Mtn, BassPro, etc) only can afford to mark the prices up 10% over their cost on each gun..... I haven't seen prices in a shop that are 10% below MSRP in a very, very long time..... most shops gain their profit margins from accessory sales... sights, scopes, hoslters, etc....

    I just bought a new S&W 610 - 4" from a local shop for $840 out the door. S&W's MSRP on the Model 610 is listed at $1043.... I also bought my MP-15A at a shop on the other side of the state for $915 when S&W has the MSRP listed at $1454....

    Check your local shops and then go to the manufacturer's site and compare the prices.... I think you'll be suprised!
    "Tempus Fugit. Memento Mori.

  5. Sorry to disagree - and I certainly don't mean to be contentious - but I can only report what I see locally.

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    First, to address the OP... One problem that I see with the local shops in my area is that they are all geared toward hunting. Sure they do have a handful of the most common hand guns, but when it comes to long guns, it's deer rifles and turkey shotguns. I'm actually toying with the idea of opening my own shop that specializes in military style and home defense weapons.

    Another problem is that these shops do not have a range on the premises. I'm sure that most folks here would agree that trying out a few different models before choosing one is very important.

    One last thing, I agree that classes/ courses would be a great idea. Consider how many new CCWs have been issued, plus how many additional courses people are taking lately. Imagine all those people having just completed a course maybe having a little time to kill afterwards, so they browse around your store for a while.

    Of course it goes without saying that if you can stockpile enough ammo to survive a rush like we just had this past year, you would be the hero of every gun owner in town.
    Quote Originally Posted by rickericn View Post
    3. Prices - you are a business, I expect you to make a profit. But don't you think you could do a little better than 10% off MSRP? Give me a break! Ever hear of Supply & Demand? There's a reason why the counter at Cabelas is always crowded.
    Two questions...
    1: What is your understanding of supply and demand? The way I understand it, as demand increases or supply decreases, the price goes up. Why would anyone lower the price of something that is in such high demand?

    2: Are you telling me that Cabelas gets so much business because of their prices? I'll grant you that I have only been in a handful of local gun shops, but as far as new merchandise, they were ALL cheaper than Cabelas. The ONLY time I would buy a new gun from Cabelas is once I have enough Cabelas points and giftcards saved up. However, I do stop in from time to time to check out their used stuff. The 8 racks of used long guns always has a bigger crowd than the cases of new handguns. Plus they have tons of ammo, accessories and other gear, also priced rather high. So yes they do draw a large crowd, but I think it has more to do with their expansive inventory than it does their prices.
    The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first. - Thomas Jefferson

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    Okay I guess some may think my comment was off target.. We have some gunshops in our area that have Gun Ranges at their site! So thats why I made my comments! Sorry if it seemed werid. We actually have 4 places that do & another who is building one with his new Gun Store!

  8. We need more stores where the staff DOES NOT talk down to most every customer, tell women they all need a little pink gun, tell everyone to buy a 12 ga. 'cause you don't have to aim, etc.
    I had a pimple-faced kid in 1 store tell me not long ago that I had no business looking at an auto pistol for cc! He was wrong, but even if he had been right, do you think his approach was good for business? I can assure you that the Kahr I wanted to look at still sits in that dealer's case. I bought one 20 minutes down the road.
    The industry needs less machismo / male bravado poured all over it (that statement coming from a 240 lb redneck) . I've been around firearms my whole life, an avid shooter for 20+ years, and there's lots I don't know. I don't like asking a question and being treated as if I'm stupid for not knowing the answer.
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    What I'd like to see is cheaper training IE handgun retention some NRA courses and things like that
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevin mosley View Post
    I don't like asking a question and being treated as if I'm stupid for not knowing the answer.
    +1!

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