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  1. I looked at the Kaltec and the Ruger LCP and the Taurus TCP. The Ruger costs more for the stainless slide and you do not get an extra mag 28$ value and the holster is worth 15$ so Taurus gave me an extra 43$ out of the gate, plus a SS slide. I took it to the range today and ran 100 rounds of reloads. If anything will give me trouble it is a reload. I loaded them with 95 gr. FJM and JHPs. It ran every one with no FTF or FTE. I also ran 100 rounds of reloaded 9mm through my Beretta FS92 and had 3 FTEs. and 1 FTF.
    I thought the gun [TCP] would bark much more than it did. It was small in the hand but thatís the nature of the beast. It was very accurate at 10 yards and the sights were about point of aim. The sights are not something this gun was designed for and for a carry gun itís hard to beat. The Holster is designed to look like a phone or PDA case. It does not have a place for the extra mag.
    As far as all the hoopla over the supposed metal support on the slide hold back, Ruger does not even have a hold back so if it fails and I see no reason that it will you are back at the point of what a Ruger offers, nothing lost.
    The take down was easy and you do need a knife or a finger nail to pull the pin. Not a problem, my nail is about 1/8th inch long and worked fine. There is no second strike and this is a bit disappointing, but with good ammo it should not be a big problem.
    I like the looks of the Ruger but it did not fit in my hand. Maybe small handed women and men will like it but I have medium hands and it was a bit to small and slim to hold properly. The Taurus fit my hand much better.
    I have had several Taurus pistols and I wish I had sold my Beretta FS92 and kept my Taurus PT92 instead. I love the safety on the Taurus much better than the Berretta, and the extra couple of hundred bucks would have been nice also. I have nothing against the Ruger but nothing ticks me off more than buying a gun and having to hunt down an extra mag and holster. after all the pluses that Taurus gave me it was a no brainer.

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  3. #22
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    I'd have to say that I'll never own a Taurus because of all the problems I've read about over the years, and the only one I handled literally fell apart in my hands. I'm sure plenty of their guns are good, I just have no reason to buy one as there are plenty of other choices out there. For those convinced my opinion is wrong, that's fine but it works for me.

    I own the Ruger. (BTW, if I wanted similar and couldn't get the Ruger I'd buy a Keltec before the Taurus.)

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    My favorite Taurus posting.

    Originally Posted by Dudeorific
    "I own 20+ Taurus handguns. About 1/2 auto and 1/2 revolver. The autos swill outshoot every Beretta I own. The revolvers will outshoot every Ruger I own and all of the S&W's except for the performance center ones. My son has a Taurus 1911 that I gave a good workout to. Shooting without sandbags, 25 yards was a ragged hole. 50 yards opened up to 1 inch groups. At 200 yards, I was holding an 8 inch pattern. I would stake my life and reputation on a Taurus any day of the week. They have never been very particular about ammo put through them either."

    Some people love to make a silk purse out of a sows ear.

    IMO, find out what the pro's carry for a belly gun. One of those is what I want, regarless of who makes it.
    Last edited by theicemanmpls; 07-22-2010 at 07:47 AM. Reason: speelin

  5. Taurus BS trashing

    I like ruger but they have problems, and anyone can say they will not own a gun of this or that maker. I think it show a silly bias but people can be biased if they choose. It sounds like a your not a man if you don't smoke the same cigarettes as me type of garbage. I see it all the time, people who like to talk big, I will not carry any gun but a big ass 45 or 44 and those little guns are for women, bla bla bla. I like the TCP because of the extras they give for less price and a life time warr. and it fit my hand better. I liked the LCP but the lack of a hold open and hand fit and more for SS was a turn off. If you google problems with the LCP you will find just as many as with the TCP.

    I think the real bashing is because the Tuarus is like that nonsense Palin put out, you are not a real American if your not from small town Kansas or some such BS. I think a lot of people look at taurus as a you aint from these parts is you gun. Reminds me of the mini cooper comm. where you can judge who owns the cooper by the size of their wee wee, the smaller the wee weee the bigger the SUV/truck. LOL.

  6. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by edteach View Post
    I looked at the Kaltec and the Ruger LCP and the Taurus TCP. The Ruger costs more for the stainless slide and you do not get an extra mag 28$ value and the holster is worth 15$ so Taurus gave me an extra 43$ out of the gate, plus a SS slide. I took it to the range today and ran 100 rounds of reloads. If anything will give me trouble it is a reload. I loaded them with 95 gr. FJM and JHPs. It ran every one with no FTF or FTE. I also ran 100 rounds of reloaded 9mm through my Beretta FS92 and had 3 FTEs. and 1 FTF.
    I thought the gun [TCP] would bark much more than it did. It was small in the hand but thatís the nature of the beast. It was very accurate at 10 yards and the sights were about point of aim. The sights are not something this gun was designed for and for a carry gun itís hard to beat. The Holster is designed to look like a phone or PDA case. It does not have a place for the extra mag.
    As far as all the hoopla over the supposed metal support on the slide hold back, Ruger does not even have a hold back so if it fails and I see no reason that it will you are back at the point of what a Ruger offers, nothing lost.
    The take down was easy and you do need a knife or a finger nail to pull the pin. Not a problem, my nail is about 1/8th inch long and worked fine. There is no second strike and this is a bit disappointing, but with good ammo it should not be a big problem.
    I like the looks of the Ruger but it did not fit in my hand. Maybe small handed women and men will like it but I have medium hands and it was a bit to small and slim to hold properly. The Taurus fit my hand much better.
    I have had several Taurus pistols and I wish I had sold my Beretta FS92 and kept my Taurus PT92 instead. I love the safety on the Taurus much better than the Berretta, and the extra couple of hundred bucks would have been nice also. I have nothing against the Ruger but nothing ticks me off more than buying a gun and having to hunt down an extra mag and holster. after all the pluses that Taurus gave me it was a no brainer.
    Good Choice!! I bought mine for all the same reasons you bought yours. It's a little gun that is easy to carry. I wind up carrying it much more than the S & W 442, a .38 Special +P, just because of the carry case the with the TCP. I HATE CONCEAL CARRY! LOL!

  7. #26
    Okay - let me preface this by saying it is just my opinion, and I don't mean to bash Taurus or have a personal issue with them. This is just how I feel...

    I looked at both and the Kel-tec and went with the LCP since it is a more mature design (the Taurus had just come out I believe) than the TCP and had a better fit-and-finish than the Kel-tec (my second choice). I never buy a car or gun until it has been out at least a year. Also, and I'll catch he!! for this, I still don't think of Taurus as a top-quality gunmaker (not saying they aren't but I just can't get there). Every time I consider looking at one I go to the gun shop and there is someone trying to return one or send it back because of a problem, (weird I know - especially since in all cases I didn't ask). As a salesmen at one of the shops I used to frequent says "Taurus has a lifetime warranty, and you'll probably need it" (that statement was several years ago). Also add in that Ruger is an American company, while Taurus is Brazilian. That carries weight with me.

    I've shot Rugers since I've been shooting. The first handgun I shot was a Ruger .22 Mark 1, and the next was a Ruger Blackhawk in .357. The only one I've had issues with was a Single-six convertible .22 that was a fine gun, but I hated it because it was too small to load with my fat fingers. I'll probably look at the SR9 if they ever start making it in .40 (guess it will be the SR40 then).

    All that said, Ruger had some issues for a few years after "Big Bill" Ruger died. It looks like they are back on track. I can't find a machining flaw on my LCP.

  8. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by SC Tiger View Post
    Okay - let me preface this by saying it is just my opinion, and I don't mean to bash Taurus or have a personal issue with them. This is just how I feel...

    I looked at both and the Kel-tec and went with the LCP since it is a more mature design (the Taurus had just come out I believe) than the TCP and had a better fit-and-finish than the Kel-tec (my second choice). I never buy a car or gun until it has been out at least a year. Also, and I'll catch he!! for this, I still don't think of Taurus as a top-quality gunmaker (not saying they aren't but I just can't get there). Every time I consider looking at one I go to the gun shop and there is someone trying to return one or send it back because of a problem, (weird I know - especially since in all cases I didn't ask). As a salesmen at one of the shops I used to frequent says "Taurus has a lifetime warranty, and you'll probably need it" (that statement was several years ago). Also add in that Ruger is an American company, while Taurus is Brazilian. That carries weight with me.

    I've shot Rugers since I've been shooting. The first handgun I shot was a Ruger .22 Mark 1, and the next was a Ruger Blackhawk in .357. The only one I've had issues with was a Single-six convertible .22 that was a fine gun, but I hated it because it was too small to load with my fat fingers. I'll probably look at the SR9 if they ever start making it in .40 (guess it will be the SR40 then).

    All that said, Ruger had some issues for a few years after "Big Bill" Ruger died. It looks like they are back on track. I can't find a machining flaw on my LCP.
    I understand the buying American products thing. I bought the Taurus mainly because it had that carrying case and it fit my hand better. It also looked better to me and functioned better for my hands. I have nothing against Ruger. I have a Ruger Single Six Convertible, my first handgun, I love it! It's still the best looking gun I own.....SO FAR! LOL!

    Tiger, I really think this Taurus slamming thing is due to the lousy customer service problem they had/have. Maybe a bad gun has to go back to Brazil to get fixed, and that is why it takes so long to get a flaw corrected. LOL! But as far as the quality, I guess I really haven't shot it enough to comment. But I'll tell you this. I thought I was going to have a few FTF and FTE's at first, but that gun has fired every round I've put through it flawlessly, SO FAR! LOL!

  9. I think that the most of the people who say they have had problems with Taurus give passes to problems they have had with other guns like Ruger because it is an American company. I can say one neg. things about ruger. I had a mini 14 and the thing was a dog. I will take my AR over that POS any day of the week. It was just an in accurate gun. I can shoot 290 expert with open sights with my colt but that ruger would be better as a base ball bat. They are fun little guns to plink with but for real shooting not for me. Ruger even admits that there was a problem but says they just built to many darn guns and they wore out the tooling. LOL YouTube - Ruger Mini 14 rifle I don't buy that story.

  10. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by GOV5 View Post
    I understand the buying American products thing.
    BTW - The TCP is made in Miami..

    Gulf Coast, Floriduh
    Sccy is the limit

  11. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by edteach View Post
    I think that the most of the people who say they have had problems with Taurus give passes to problems they have had with other guns like Ruger because it is an American company. I can say one neg. things about ruger. I had a mini 14 and the thing was a dog. I will take my AR over that POS any day of the week. It was just an in accurate gun. I can shoot 290 expert with open sights with my colt but that ruger would be better as a base ball bat. They are fun little guns to plink with but for real shooting not for me. Ruger even admits that there was a problem but says they just built to many darn guns and they wore out the tooling. LOL YouTube - Ruger Mini 14 rifle I don't buy that story.
    I don't give any companies a pass on bad quality, but I do understand that Ruger had an issue right after Big Bill died. Most of the ones I saw were cosmetic and readily apparent (barrel "clocked", etc). The bad Taurus products could be a result of the same thing (change in management, new manufacturing facility/processes, etc) but I don't know that. I've had good experience with Ruger. Unfortunately my favorite one (a GP100) was stolen along with my single-six.

    My choice was based primarily on the maturity of the designs. The LCP has been out longer and, let's face it, is a copy of the Kel-tec with a few refinements and better fit and finish (at least mine). The Taurus was brand-new when I purchased my LCP. Also, as a mouse gun I kind of like the lack of a slide hold open after the last round - less to go wrong. The American company thing was also a small factor, even though the Taurus is made in Miami.

    BTW - and no offense or flame intended - the Mini-14 used to be a lot cheaper than the AR. I don't think it was really meant to be a direct competitor.

    I did like that Taurus offered to arm all pilots for free after 9/11. I have considered getting one as a range gun (a .22 revolver would be perfect) and, if it turned out to be a good gun, considering one for SD.

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