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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naybor View Post
    I do like my Rugers.

    BUT, my main concern with Taurus is the factory/customer service is in Brazil ~ Ruger's customer service and accessory dept. is in Arizona. Ruger firearms can have problem. Taurus firearms can have problems. How quick can you get the problem resolved is my concern.

    To be honest, when the wife got her Ruger SP101, she narrowed it down to a stainless 38 Special Taurus with a vented barrel and the stainless Ruger .357. She did like them both, but settled on the Ruger cause she could use .38 and .357 mag in it. The Taurus was a cheaper price. Not cheap, but cheaper.

    Each person should buy what they LIKE and not what other people likes. I know a fella who has carried an old chrome Raven .25 and swears it's the best weapon he ever owned. He has the right to his opinion.
    Hey Naybor, I like your avitar!

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  3. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by tommypotatoes View Post
    Well, I bought an LCP a few weeks ago, intending to take it with me on an upcoming trip. The slide lock doesn't move, or is more difficult to move than I can manage, so I can't lock back the slide, but I don't consider that the most important thing in the world..

    I've put about 150 rounds through it with no FTE, but it has balked a few times, when chambering the first round. Today I put 25 rounds of Corbon JHP through it, since I have been considering that as a defensive load. I must have had at least seven FTF problems with it, using that ammo. Forget that stuff, for now.

    This has been my first crack at a DAO gun, and I can safely say that it will be my only one. The half mile of trigger travel, coupled with its miniscule size, makes accuracy a real challenge. However, in a close quarter situation, with FMJ ammo, I suppose that it's better than nothing. I'll be close to Prescott, so maybe I could drop in and have them take a look at it while I'm there.

    That's just my two cents, anyway. After today's trip to the range, I'm leaning more towards packing my Charter Arms Bulldog...
    I had owned an LCP and the Taurus 738, but got rid of them both. The Taurus was finicky with some ammo and the LCP I could not hit crap with it. They are neat guns, for what they are, but I am afraid that in a stressful situation, I would not have handled them as well as my Kel Tec P-11 or Sigma.

  4. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by B2Tall View Post
    I first shot a Ruger auto more than 30 yrs ago. It was a .22 and I was a teenager. It functioned perfectly. Last week I shot my LCP. It functioned perfectly (300+ rounds overall). In the 3 decades in between I have shot many a Ruger and never had a problem with any of them.

    Last month I shot a friend's Taurus. It could not go through a mag w/o a FTF (we were using very reliable ammo). 3 of us shot it and all 3 of us had the same problem. This was simply the latest in a long line of reliability issues with Taurus that I have experienced or that I have had people tell me about. Maybe Taurus has has improved its product recently, maybe they haven't.

    I don't give a hoot about whether a gun looks good (some here seem to make the gun's appearance a high priority). I care about whether it shoots when I pull the trigger and about where the slugs go. Based on that I'll take a Ruger any day over a cool looking Taurus.

    To each his own.
    I will ride along with B2TALL on this one. Actually, I wanted to pick up a Bersa, but locally none were available. The Ruger LCP and the rest of my Rugers function just as designed.

  5. #44
    My wife and like the little LCP/TCP for bugs, at first we had one of each and hated the LCP, way to long trigger pull and very undependable operation, on the other hand the 738 very rarely has a problem, in fack if you keep it reasonaly clean I have no trouble

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    1. Taurus is made in USA but owned by foreign company. Ruger is 100% USA owned and manufactured. I only mention this because the OP lauded the fact that Taurus is built in USA.

    2. Every Taurus I have owned (only 2 weapons) has needed repair due to poor craftsmanship. Granted I haven't purchased a Taurus in many years.

    3. TCP is a beautiful little gun, but craftsmanship is about equal with my LCP (compared side by side)

    4. My LCP goes bang every time, and I trust it. I don't trust Taurus weapons and never will. That's just me.

    5. "My slide won't lock back" is a very common complaint for the TCP. Maybe they will fix that as the design gets upgraded.

    6. LCP failures to fire that I have seen have virtually all been caused by limp wristing the gun. Few people have experience with these little guns.

    I'm sure the TCP is a great little gun; just would not personally buy one. However, having owned and operated my LCP through about 550 rouinds, I wanted to make sure it did not get short changed in this discussion. I trust this little guy with my life on a daily basis.

  7. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by tommypotatoes View Post
    Well, I bought an LCP a few weeks ago, intending to take it with me on an upcoming trip. The slide lock doesn't move, or is more difficult to move than I can manage, so I can't lock back the slide, but I don't consider that the most important thing in the world..

    I've put about 150 rounds through it with no FTE, but it has balked a few times, when chambering the first round. Today I put 25 rounds of Corbon JHP through it, since I have been considering that as a defensive load. I must have had at least seven FTF problems with it, using that ammo. Forget that stuff, for now.

    This has been my first crack at a DAO gun, and I can safely say that it will be my only one. The half mile of trigger travel, coupled with its miniscule size, makes accuracy a real challenge. However, in a close quarter situation, with FMJ ammo, I suppose that it's better than nothing. I'll be close to Prescott, so maybe I could drop in and have them take a look at it while I'm there.

    That's just my two cents, anyway. After today's trip to the range, I'm leaning more towards packing my Charter Arms Bulldog...
    Mouse guns pretty much all have the issue with chambering the first round. You can't ride the slide the least little bit or it will not fully chamber the round. I'd suggest using the slide lock to chamber the first round but it sounds like that may be out of the question right now...

    I have an LCP and had to send it to Ruger for barrel peening. It was gone a total of 3 weeks, including the week that UPS tried to deliver it to me. Ruger customer service is outstanding.

    Accuracy is a challenge, at least partly due to the sights. I put a Crimson Trace on mine since it is about the easiet way to upgrade the sights, but honestly I don't know that it is really necessary since this is a "belly gun."

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    Took my LCP to the range a few days ago. 50 rounds, fired every time (always has), and I got nice groupings with double-taps at about 20 feet. As far as ammo goes, I would be reluctant to use HP rounds in any pocket gun. I use Corbon Powerball or Hornaday Critical Defense in all my pistols. That type of ammo is more reliable when it comes to feeds.

    Like the poster who quoted me above, I'll stick with Rugers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B2Tall View Post
    Took my LCP to the range a few days ago. 50 rounds, fired every time (always has), and I got nice groupings with double-taps at about 20 feet. As far as ammo goes, I would be reluctant to use HP rounds in any pocket gun. I use Corbon Powerball or Hornaday Critical Defense in all my pistols. That type of ammo is more reliable when it comes to feeds.

    Like the poster who quoted me above, I'll stick with Rugers.
    Yeah, with just a little training it was easy to be combat accurate with the LCP. Not sure why folks are having problems with accuracy.

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    Defense ammo in LCP vs TCP

    CORŽBON DPX was not reliable in LCP. But I have heard that it runs well in the TCP.

    This is from a review i did on a popular retailers website:

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    As others have said, it will NOT run reliably in an LCP. I measured these against PMC FMJ .380. This ammunition has a strange crimp about 1/3" below neck to hold in the bullet. At the crimp, the case is wider than standard (it bulges). It is also slightly shorter in overall length:
    *
    PMC FMJ:
    Length 24.71 mm = 0.973 inches
    Diameter near neck 9.4 mm = 0.370 inches
    *
    CORŽBON DPX:
    Length 24.03 mm = 0.946 inches
    Diameter near crmip 9.51 mm = 0.374 inches
    *
    Most importantly, these have a very sharp edge on the hollow point that is larger in diameter than a standard bullet at that location, and that is what I believe is catching on the feed ramp. It could be a combination of all three; the bulge, the wide bullet, and the sharp edge. In my LCP Remington Golden Saber works reliably.
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    So that is a plus for the TCP.

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    I've noticed that the feed action in my LCP is much smoother using non-HP ammo. I have a box of .380 DPX and found that the action was a bit herky-jerky when I cycled it through the LCP. I switched to Powerball and the problem went away. Never a problem with FMJ range ammo either.

    As far as some people having problems with the LCP's accuracy, some of the things I've read lead me to believe that some folks are expecting the performance of a full size pistol when the use an LCP or something similar. It's a pocket gun - something designed to be used at very short ranges. When I was shooting at a target that was 20ft away I was using the LCP at what I would consider long range for a pocket gun.

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