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  1. #31
    I feel confident with the hitting and tearing power of the 45ACP. I'm prepared to compensate for the lesser hitting and tearing power of the .32H&R Mag and 380 that I am sometimes compelled to carry with follow-up shots.

    Bang + Bang + Bang = BANG!


    "The Right of the People to move about freely in a secure manner shall not be infringed. Any manner of self defense shall not be restricted, regardless of the mode of travel or where you stop along the way, as it is the right so enumerated at both the beginning and end of any journey." B.E.Wood

  3. #32
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    Sep 2007
    NE Portland, Oregon - PacNW
    Quote Originally Posted by Doug1 View Post
    I carry .45 acp (Glock) every day. But when I can't carry a gun it's the kel tec .380 that I take. I have to admit that the .380 makes me feel a little under gunned. But a .380 in the pocket is better than a .45 in the safe.

    So what is the minimum caliber you need to carry to feel safe?

    MINIMUM is .50, but I will settle for anything the begins with a .4X:D

  4. I usually carry a 9mm Makarov (9x18). I love my 45 and my 9mms too but bulky for what I own.

    I read a post by a lawyer on another forum abotu his experience with shootings, influenced by a pathologist that claims he has difficulty identifying the caliber that made the wound...a hole is a hole, smaller going in and larger coming out if it came out. Usually in a gunfight the distance between a BG and the GG is small therefore caliber size is somewhat insignificant.

    A loaded gun is way better than a rock to throw no matter what the caliber!

  5. #34
    Here were my selction rules when it came time to decide CCW:

    Going into a fight for certain: don't go
    Probably will be a fight: .308, 7.62x39 or 12gauge
    Is there going to be a fight?: largest caliber you always have on you and can control well.

    For me, this was .32acp in a Kel-Tec P32. Thought about the .380, but it didn't hold open on the last round, and it kicks a little more. Add on the +1 mag extension to the P32, and you have 9 shouts of quite controllable "NO!"

  6. .38 spl. is the smallest I'll be caught leaving the house. Though I have to admit one of my .38's usually fall into a back up role. 9mm is really the smallest primary defensive caliber for me.

  7. #36
    My choice for most of the time is 9mm. However when I run or other times that may require something small I carry my Tomcat 32 cal. I would rather have the 9 but the 32 is better than a rock.

  8. #37
    .38 Special +P.

  9. Exclamation The BIGGER the Better!!!

    I'm definitely a 45 ACP guy, but a 40 or 44 special does fine. I have 3 men in my immediate family that ended up shooting a bad guy with a 45 auto, and all were using ball ammo, and all went down immediately and hard. I consider the 9mm to be the least, for me that is, if carrying a semi-auto. If I carry a snubby revolver it will be 38 or 357 mag. I have carried a 32 acp and a 380 auto, but it makes me a little squeamish. I saw a narc pull a Walther PPK and fire an entire mag into a tanked up bad guy putting 7 rounds into his stomach and lower chest. He fell to the ground and then got up cussing. He was bending over and holding his gut, but he got up!
    He fell down again and just sat there, saying you didn't have to shoot me. The bad guy dropped his gun, but was sitting on the ground by it. He fell over and later died at the hospital. By the time the shooting was done, maybe 2 0r 3 seconds, everyone was behind cover and had guns drawn. We had just pulled up when we saw the bad guy pull a gun from his waistband. The narc just got his shots off faster. He was carrying Federal 90 grain classic JHP's in the Walther. Ever since then, I hate to carry a .380. Not to say it will always happen that way, BUT.........

  10. Whatever I'm carrying that day.


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  11. #40
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    Sep 2007
    Pacific Northwest
    A Barrett semi-auto in .50 BMG, a 12 ga with 8 rds, a 7.62 X 39 with >10rds. or a .223 carbine with several 30 rd mags would make me feel safe. The foregoing usually being impractical, my usual carry gun is a 9X19mm with .38 snub as BUG or a 9X18 Mak for carry in the pocket of cargo pants when I'm not wearing a cover garment. Large frame revolvers have adequate power but are hard to conceal. If I could, I would go armed like Josey Wales, or Mad Max when he unloads a boatload of guns upon entering Thunderdome, but chronic back pain limits how much weight I can carry.

    Edit-afterthought. Emotion overcoming reason I like my E. German Mak so much that I don't feel queasy with it. It works EVERY time and I can hit what I shoot at with it. 1911 Bubba's narrative is informative, but note that the .380 DID put the BG on the trailer, and legal considerations aside he could have been shot some more with a mag change. "He fell to the ground and then got up cussing. He was bending over and holding his gut, but he got up!" The average peon (as opposed to a cop) could escape or if necessary, or shoot him in the head while he's cussing and getting up. The police are tasked with taking the miscreant alive if possible for processing by the legal industry. The threatened peon is only responsible for staying alive and unharmed. This is not to suggest that .380 is the caliber of choice, but the BG did fall down and did die later, thus preventing him from harming the minions of the law and saving the taxpayers the costs involved with his legal defense.
    Last edited by revjen45; 10-06-2007 at 01:22 AM. Reason: afterthought
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