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    Suffer These Crimes in Oakland? Don't Call the Cops
    Dozens of layoffs effective at midnight, barring last minute deal
    By LORI PREUITT and KRIS SANCHEZ
    Updated 9:16 AM PDT, Tue, Jul 13, 2010
    Suffer These Crimes in Oakland? Don't Call the Cops | NBC Bay Area

    Oakland's police chief is making some dire claims about what his force will and will not respond to if layoffs go as planned.

    Chief Anthony Batts listed exactly 44 situations that his officers will no longer respond to and they include grand theft, burglary, car wrecks, identity theft and vandalism. He says if you live and Oakland and one of the above happens to you, you need to let police know on-line.

    Some 80 officers were to be let go at midnight last night if a last-minute deal was not reached. That's about ten percent of the work force.

    "I came her e to build an organization, not downsize one," said Batts, who was given the top job in October.

    That deadline has been extended to 5 p.m. Tuesday.

    Here's a partial list:

    * burglary
    * theft
    * embezzlement
    * grand theft
    * grand theft:dog
    * identity theft
    * false information to peace officer
    * required to register as sex or arson offender
    * dump waste or offensive matter
    * discard appliance with lock
    * loud music
    * possess forged notes
    * pass fictitious check
    * obtain money by false voucher
    * fraudulent use of access cards
    * stolen license plate
    * embezzlement by an employee (over $ 400)
    * extortion
    * attempted extortion
    * false personification of other
    * injure telephone/ power line
    * interfere with power line
    * unauthorized cable tv connection
    * vandalism
    * administer/expose poison to another's

    Negotiations are going on at Oakland City Hall in the mayor's office.

    Batts said the 80 officers slated to be laid off - mostly new officers - are "pretty sad and pretty depressed," and those feelings are shared by the Police Department as a whole.

    The Oakland City Council voted June 25 to eliminate the positions to help close the city's $32.5 million funding gap. According to the city of Oakland, each of the 776 police officers currently employed at OPD costs around $188,000 per year. Most of the officers who will be affected by the layoffs were on the streets of Oakland when Johannes Mehserle's involuntary manslaughter conviction caused riots last Thursday.

    The sticking point in negotiations appears to be job security. The city council asked OPD officers to pay nine percent of their salary toward their pensions, which would save the city about $7.8 million toward a multi-million dollar deficit. The police union agreed, as long as the city could promise no layoffs for three years. No dice, says city council president Jane Brunner.

    "We wish we could offer them a three-year no layoff protection we just can't financially. It would be irresponsible of us," Brunner said. The city agreed to a one-year moratorium on layoffs, but it is not enough for the union.

    The problem is money. In the last five years, the police budget -- along with the fire department budget -- have amount to 75 percent of the general fund. After years of largely sparing those departments the budget ax, now it appears there are few other places to cut.

    These are the last hours of negotiation and Brunner is hopeful that the city and police will find some sort middle ground.

    "It's been very good conversation and not a whole lot of grandstanding." Brunner said. "There's actually real conversations. Each side understands the problem," she said.
    First Published: Jul 12, 2010 1:27 PM PDT
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    While the situation for citizens will only get worse (is that possible in Oakland?); I'm certain that the police dereliction of duty will not be accepted as 'good cause' on a CCW application in Alameda County.

    Unless, of course, you're a member of the 'priveleged' ...
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    Perhaps if you need help you should call the Hells Angels. I used to hear years ago that they were pretty much in charge of the city anyway. Not sure if it was or is still true.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    Quote Originally Posted by HK4U View Post
    Perhaps if you need help you should call the Hells Angels. I used to hear years ago that they were pretty much in charge of the city anyway. Not sure if it was or is still true.
    Actually, there are many recorded instances wherein the civilians LIKED having the HA clubhouse in their neighborhood. They noted that street crime fell way off due to their presence. I remember reading one case wherein a neighborhood grocer was getting continual grief from the local gangbangers. The local HA chapter finally marched down the street and whipped a few a$$e$. Problem solved.

    We wouldn't need so many LEO anyway, if people were able to address a lot of these issues themselves, say by packing a piece. Course that isn't gonna happen, here.
    Prov. 27:3 - "Stone is heavy and sand a burden, but provocation by a fool is heavier than both"

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    Quote Originally Posted by NDS View Post
    While the situation for citizens will only get worse (is that possible in Oakland?); I'm certain that the police dereliction of duty will not be accepted as 'good cause' on a CCW application in Alameda County.

    Unless, of course, you're a member of the 'priveleged' ...

    Just what that city needs...it's already such a cesspool, now cut back on the LE presence... Glad I am not in that area any longer!

    And NDS, you are 100% correct...I worked in LE in Alameda County for many years, and you could count the # of CCWs issued by the S.O. on both hands.... VERY non-gun-friendly place there

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    I am afraid this scenario is going to play out over and over again all around the country. It is going to be up to us to protect our families and ourselves. We are fighting "City Hall" about our taxes and property values. A family member in a neighborhood outside Pontiac has had her property value dropped from just shy of $100k to less than $20k. Doing a compare to recent sales and other properties, her appraiser had no choice but to put her property that low. There have been many $100k properties sold at auction/foreclosure sales for $7/8k. The lists of people trying to appeal their property taxes and assessments have reached the point of multiple year waits. IMHO, We Ain't Seen nothing yet...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jibbster View Post
    Just what that city needs...it's already such a cesspool, now cut back on the LE presence... Glad I am not in that area any longer!

    And NDS, you are 100% correct...I worked in LE in Alameda County for many years, and you could count the # of CCWs issued by the S.O. on both hands.... VERY non-gun-friendly place there
    What you mean non gun friendly? You ever hangout at 104th and East 14th? Lots of guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricbak View Post
    I am afraid this scenario is going to play out over and over again all around the country. It is going to be up to us to protect our families and ourselves. We are fighting "City Hall" about our taxes and property values. A family member in a neighborhood outside Pontiac has had her property value dropped from just shy of $100k to less than $20k. Doing a compare to recent sales and other properties, her appraiser had no choice but to put her property that low. There have been many $100k properties sold at auction/foreclosure sales for $7/8k. The lists of people trying to appeal their property taxes and assessments have reached the point of multiple year waits. IMHO, We Ain't Seen nothing yet...
    Got that right. Even Billy O. was talking about total economic collapse, on the Factor last nite. He's finally talking like he sees B. Hussein for what he really is. And it dang well took him long enough.
    Prov. 27:3 - "Stone is heavy and sand a burden, but provocation by a fool is heavier than both"

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    You have a right to private property. You do not have a right to private property value.

    If you have a property appraisal in hand for year X and a tax bill in hand for year X, but they won't do a tax reassessment until year X+Y, that's Y years they ain't getting any property tax revenue from me whatsoever if the property tax bill is calculated based on actual market value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theicemanmpls View Post
    What you mean non gun friendly? You ever hangout at 104th and East 14th? Lots of guns.
    ok, Iceman...you got me there

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