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    Quote Originally Posted by kelcarry View Post
    From what I get out of the testimony so far is that everyone is right and everyone is wrong although testimony seems to indicate Mr. Scott definitely had a problem and his actions in the store and outside the store, particularly since he had one (or two) firearms, was a recipe for an unfortunate outcome. It does seem suspicious that the Costco tape, which would have shown all, apparently did not work during the critical time frame in question. I wonder if they have ever had such problems with the tapings during the time the store has been in operation. If such failures have happened in the past, it would make this failure believable. If there have never been such failures before and this happened this one time, the coincidence would be improbable at best and essentially implausable. It would and is a shame that conflicting testimony is all that is available when a picture would have been worth the proverbial thousand words.
    While driving to work this morning, a local vegas radio host was covering this issue. Apparently some Costco employees said the video was not working just days before the shooting either.
    Now I have no proof of that, but am only repeating what the host said.

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  3. #292
    Quote Originally Posted by buddy View Post
    While driving to work this morning, a local vegas radio host was covering this issue. Apparently some Costco employees said the video was not working just days before the shooting either.
    Now I have no proof of that, but am only repeating what the host said.
    Costco Surveillance Video Footage of the cops car entering the parking lot is the ONLY video that has been presented thus far...

    HIGHLY SUSPECT...

    COVER UP, COVER UP, COVER UP...

    "The people never give up their liberties, but under some delusion." - Edmund Burke

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    OK, here's the other thing....
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    No Store/Surveillance Video...
    So what? If available, it would probably only serve to support the correct conclusions presently being drawn and doesn't matter anyway in light of other overwhelming evidence.
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    No Dash-cam Video from the cops...
    Because we all know the cops always park facing the predicted location of a probable encounter with an unknown suspect at a similarly unknown location, right?
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    The cop William Mosher whom CLAIMS he was drawn on...
    What people in Vegas have by far the highest probablility of a gun being drawn on them? Answer: LVMPD. You find that so hard to believe because? Whose officer's appearance in this cases is totally unrelated to the matter in question except inasmuch as you would like to....
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    ...continued character assassination
    Character assasination targets are typically only a matter of personal preference. I'll take the cop over an Army washout any day.
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    No Nevada cop has ever been convicted OR charged in a wrongful shooting...
    So what? No Greenwich Connecticut cop has ever been charged or convicted of that either. Your point?
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    Erik Scott - West Point Grad, and model citizen...
    Drug addict with anger issues who failed to complete his stint in the Army for as yet undisclosed reasons. Riiiight.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bohemian View Post
    Thus-far ONE-Doctor testified ...
    I'll leave it at that and not go into any personal experiences with drug-affected close personal acquaintances.
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    If we had two sides, the family's attorney...
    Sorry, but it's not a trial for obvious reasons.
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    It seems to me what the district attorney is doing is demonizing Erik Scott...
    It seems to me Eric Scott did quite a good job of demonizing himself along the way to his unfortunate demise, with no outside help from the DA or anyone else, for that matter.
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    this reeks of corruption and cover up...
    Sure - to your typical conspiracy theorist.
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    Without Video, everything is hearsay...
    Uh actually no, it is sworn testimony given under oath as was mentioned previously
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    Demand Justice!
    Demand truth.

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    CORONER'S INQUEST: Costco employees testify Scott acted unusual before shooting - News - ReviewJournal.com

    Jurors heard the taped statement of Erik Scott's girlfriend Friday after the eyewitness failed to appear at a coroner's inquest into his July 10 shooting death outside the Costco store in Summerlin.

    In an interview on the afternoon of the shooting, Samantha Sterner spoke without emotion and told Las Vegas police detectives that her boyfriend was trying to disarm when an officer fired at him without hesitation.

    "He was trying to put his weapon on the ground," Sterner told police.
    So now she gets to tell her side of the story and fails to show up. She told the police he was trying to put his gun on the ground, that same gun that never left his waistband and his hands were never lowered. It really is starting to sound as if the police are presenting only one side of the story because the other side doesn't have a story.

    One thing that everyone needs to keep in mind is that this is a Coroner's Inquest and doesn't actually carry any legal standing of guilt or innocence of anyone.

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    Somehow I would hope the overall condition and timing of all the video cameras/recordings within the Costco site will be scrutinized to ensure that it was not just the MOST IMPORTANT VIDEO OF THEM ALL that had a problem AT THAT TIME. If, as Buddy said in his last reply, there is evidence that the videos were not working days before or even hours before this incident, that is extremely important and does not smack of coverup.

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    Erik Scott Inquest: Day Three KXNT Newsradio 100.5FM | 840AM

    Here is a link to the radio station I listed to today. This article contains some information that has surfaced:

    another witness says scott told the cops "i have a gun" and pointed it at them
    several witnesses, testifed the hard drive became corrupt on the 8th of July (shooting was the 10th) and no images were available from that time on

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    CORONER'S INQUEST: Shoppers: Scott reached for something before being shot by police - News - ReviewJournal.com

    More information. Does not paint this man in a positive light. I can only assume cops are working for the review journal newspaper and making this all up to cover their actions.

    Interestingly, the scott family att says he has 20-25 witnesses who will testify that they never saw him draw his gun, but he will not allow them to testify.

    Does not want them "browbeat" by the prosecutor.

  9. #298
    Just because testimony is sworn, without cross examination, there is no way to ascertain the truthfulness of it.

    More than "Slam-Dunk" case was lost when a star witness was cross examined and the testimony fell apart.

    I don't know who is right in this mess.

    All stories have two sides, but only one is being allowed in this proceeding.

    Only witnesses favorable to the prosecutor are allowed and no one can cross examine them.

    That is what alarms me!

    -Doc

  10. #299
    NV. does not mandate dash cams. Metro has never had dash cams. Cover up or not Scott pulled a gun on officers telling him to "get on the ground". That is fact. In the 911 tapes you can hear the commands to " get on the ground". His own girlfriends statement said he pulled his gun. When you take your CCW course you are trained what to do in the presence of LEO's is to do what they say. And to NEVER touch your weapon. Erik failed in this simple task. It is truly sad. All he had to do was get on the ground. There is no cover up, just a guy who failed at basic instruction, and a cop who wanted to go home that night. And I was taking Erik Scott side when I first heard this, but you don't grab your gun when a LEO has you at gun point telling you" to get on the ground."

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    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFANDTHEA View Post
    NV. does not mandate dash cams. Metro has never had dash cams. Cover up or not Scott pulled a gun on officers telling him to "get on the ground". That is fact. In the 911 tapes you can hear the commands to " get on the ground". His own girlfriends statement said he pulled his gun. When you take your CCW course you are trained what to do in the presence of LEO's is to do what they say. And to NEVER touch your weapon. Erik failed in this simple task. It is truly sad. All he had to do was get on the ground. There is no cover up, just a guy who failed at basic instruction, and a cop who wanted to go home that night. And I was taking Erik Scott side when I first heard this, but you don't grab your gun when a LEO has you at gun point telling you" to get on the ground."
    Yes, but the cop did say drop it along with other commands. This was brought up by the DA and the audio of the 911 call was played in the court for the jury to hear. The cop said that was his voice but he didn't remember saying that. There is no doubt that Erik was on some heavy medication and maybe he was trying to comply with the drop it order but in his medicated state he couldn't process the situation quick enough. Another thing that rubs me the wrong way is the way the pictures of the scene show his pistol on the ground in the holster. The cops testimony mentioned that you could still place your finger inside the trigger and fire the weapon with it holstered. Why would he mention that? If Erik had even for a moment thought of firing on the police why would he take his gun and holster out of his waste band?
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