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    Ask our founding fathers how they would feel about all this... I'm sure they applied for permits and had tags when they hunted. There is a fine line.

    So the poor guy that's been out of work as he was fired 6 months ago when the local factory closed, is out shooting at a deer with some of the last bullets he has attempting to keep 2 children and wife fed. Perhaps it's 2 weeks before season, but this deer is nice and big and he can use every last piece of the meat. We take his rifle and slap him with a fine and imprison him? Taking away what little self reliance he has and creating a situation in which others will go hungry...

    Since when did we all get so comfortable with asking permission to live freely?

    The laws in some areas were intended to protect the wildlife. In others they were designed and implemented to entrap and ensnare the hunters. I live in MA so I can relate. One law is in contradiction to another while it supports yet another in the process of superseding the other 2.

    In California I'd have to say the laws are in place to do the latter... Generate revenue to feed the fat bloated government...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 6shootercarry View Post
    Ask our founding fathers how they would feel about all this... I'm sure they applied for permits and had tags when they hunted. There is a fine line.

    So the poor guy that's been out of work as he was fired 6 months ago when the local factory closed, is out shooting at a deer with some of the last bullets he has attempting to keep 2 children and wife fed. Perhaps it's 2 weeks before season, but this deer is nice and big and he can use every last piece of the meat. We take his rifle and slap him with a fine and imprison him? Taking away what little self reliance he has and creating a situation in which others will go hungry...

    Since when did we all get so comfortable with asking permission to live freely?

    The laws in some areas were intended to protect the wildlife. In others they were designed and implemented to entrap and ensnare the hunters. I live in MA so I can relate. One law is in contradiction to another while it supports yet another in the process of superseding the other 2.

    In California I'd have to say the laws are in place to do the latter... Generate revenue to feed the fat bloated government...
    SC has one of the biggest DNR Enforcement Departments in the Nation considering area of State verses number of Officers. Bloated, that's being kind. We now have to buy Saltwater Licenses to fish in the ocean. I'm talking about at the beach with a serf pole. God only knows whats next. Steel shot when you shoot a perp? God forbid you put lead in the environment.
    "The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." --author and philosopher Ayn Rand (1905-1982)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6shootercarry View Post
    Ask our founding fathers how they would feel about all this... I'm sure they applied for permits and had tags when they hunted. There is a fine line.

    So the poor guy that's been out of work as he was fired 6 months ago when the local factory closed, is out shooting at a deer with some of the last bullets he has attempting to keep 2 children and wife fed. Perhaps it's 2 weeks before season, but this deer is nice and big and he can use every last piece of the meat. We take his rifle and slap him with a fine and imprison him? Taking away what little self reliance he has and creating a situation in which others will go hungry...
    That's one hell of an imagination you have.

  5. Game & Fish Law Enforcements need to work hard catching poachers, man.. They are doing nothing at work!

    Poachers are taking advantage to kill them and they are hungry, no money from job!
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    Like in New Orleans Someone getting food should not be considered stealing, that was survival. I have no problem with that. I knew people that will not hunt legal, never, they don't need the food, they just brake the law. I know someone that owns 500 acres and night hunts his property, I asked him why he did it and he said that it took too long to hunt Deer in the day light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nogods View Post
    Where I hunt we consider people who can't obey game laws to be no-good low-life poachers.

    I now there are other places where people call such pond scum "uncle Ted."

    What's it like around your area?

    Ted Nugent Busted for Game Violations in California
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    we can beat the nuge thing to death and it already has been bottom line there is his only mistake was to rely on his production staff to do their job and get the necessary permits prior to the film shoot....
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    This pretty much sums it up for me -

    Quote Originally Posted by 6shootercarry View Post
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    Since when did we all get so comfortable with asking permission to live freely?
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    Very astute question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nogods View Post
    You obviously have no understanding of economic systems.

    BTW - socialism is not "damn, we got us a black president..." despite Faux News.
    Correct. Socialism is taking a portion of what I and others have worked hard for, and giving it to others, forcibly or under duress. The government mandates it shall be done under the statement "It's for the common good" or more succinctly, "So we are all equal". It requires the buy in from all parties and also requires over sight and monitoring. As with any other economic system, it's wrought with abuse and is prone to greed. Both by-products of free will. A trait we humans have, foster, and quite enjoy.

    Charity is when "I" (or a group of I's) feel the need or have the desire to assist others knowing that when they have the means or perhaps when they are able to they will by their labor or other means, assist me if I were to need assistance. Or perhaps they pay it forward to others that may need assistance. No government mandate and no regulations needed. It's how things in this country were done before government got to big and overpowering. Bartering system. It kept government in check and allowed free commerce to flourish.

    Ask the Soviets how well a socialist and communist system worked for them. My friend Mr. Litvak (from Russia) and I had a long bone chilling discussion of how the system really benefits no one...

    Go back to eating the nice green grass and drink plenty of Kool-Aid... Bahhhh...
    You can give peace a chance alright..

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    Quote Originally Posted by nogods View Post
    That's one hell of an imagination you have.
    Yup... I can imagine lots of things... One of my creative traits...
    You can give peace a chance alright..

    I'll seek cover in case it goes badly..

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