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    Anybody shoot at the Bass Pro Shop in Grapevine, Tx, or any other Bass Pro Shop for that matter? I'm curious to know if you've had problems carrying concealed to and from the range.

    Most of the staff have allowed me to carry concealed both to and from the range, but lately I've been hassled by the Range Master about them putting a trigger lock on it on the way out. I was even told today that carrying concealed(CHL) into the range was OK, but after firing the gun it would have to be trigger locked at the range and then unlocked at the exit of the store. As far as I know, Bass Pro does not prohibit licensed concealed carry in their stores, so this just doesn't make since to me. I can shop all day long with it, but if I use it at their range, I'm not allowed to CC it on the way out?

    Has anybody else had these issues, or have an explanation?

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    Not a very good situation. I would write a letter to the general manager of the store and request a written response. The logic makes no sense. A written response would clarify the policy and may cause the GM to review policy and hopefully correct the nonsense. I remember shooting at Bass Pro Shop in Las Vegas. After I finished shooting, I packed up the non-carry guns (Ruger 22-45, and Beretta 92). The guy checking me out saw me holstering my Glock 23. He asked me what I was doing, and I told him that I have my CFP for NV. After checking my license, the guy apologized and allowed me to holster my loaded firearm and conceal my extra magazines. I was asked to wait for an associate who escorted me to the front door. As I was walking out, I chatted with the associate. He told me that it's store policy to escort "armed" customers to the front door. It's an insurance compliance thing. They usually put trigger locks on firearms until the customers get to the exit. This is where a customer service rep would remove the locks and send the customer on their way. Since I had my own locking gun case, I was allowed to secure my non-carry stuff and simply be escorted to the front door. I don't agree with the policy, but understand that insurance companies sometimes require businesses to do things that don't make much sense. :(

    Hope you're able to get a satisfactory resolution to your situation.


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    Well,

    I wouldn't shoot there. Further, I don't buy into that "insurance compliance" story either. It simply doesn't make sense on two levels.

    1. Why would only some of the businesses have an insurance company that requires this? Countless gunstores DON'T have an insurance carrier with that so-called policy. OKAY, maybe small businesses are too unsophisticated to shop for their insurance and save some significant amount on insurance expenses. Yet, the SW I shopped at in WA would carry your newly-purchased weapon to the front door for you, but never insisted I needed an escort for walking around or exiting even though the staff knew I carried. SW is as big an operation (or maybe larger) as BP so how much does BP supposedly save with this insurance company? At the very least a letter asking this question could make them shop for a different insurance carrier.

    2. In line with the "escort" services, do they insist on escorting "armed customers" all around the store while they shop? That seems obviously impossible. Why would an "escort" be part of any possible consequence to any action you might take? Unless, of course, your escort is armed and prepared to shoot you if you make a wrong move. Now, I do understand that if you buy a firearm and leave it sitting in a shopping cart while you keep shopping over in the sleeping bag section or (Wal-Mart) decide to try on a pair of pants in the clothing section that would make sense to pick up the weapon as you left.

    This doesn't sound like business, it sounds like someone made it up as a semi-logical excuse in order to avoid questions or has possibly misinterpreted some other policy such as it doesn't apply to properly licensed/permitted carriers. Smells fishy to me.
    Reality, DEAL with IT!

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    Part of the problem may lie in the fact that when they see you leaving from the firing range with a loaded holstered firearm, at that point, they know you're armed. Folks who carry concealed and don't advertise can be put into the "plausible deniability" category. Once the store "knows" that you're armed, they have a higher responsibility to be sure that you're in compliance with the law. I'm not an attorney, insurance agent, insurance adjuster, etc, though I do understand that folks like to sue folks for a lot of stuff these days. I think a letter to the store GM would clear up the issue. If they don't provide a valid answer, the I would shop somewhere else. It may be a state law requrement for all we know.

    I'll quote "Sgt. Sig" - ALWAYS carry! ~ NEVER tell!
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    the bass pro here in Va. doesnt have a range, but when they first opened if you bought a firearm there the either escorted you to the door or sent it to the customer sevice desk for you to pick up on your way out. each time they put a gunlock on the weapon. Presently several of my friends have bought firearms at the gun counter and ammo and have been allowed to continue shopping while carrying that around with them. Go figure. The last thing they need to do is upset the gun totin community, they will be out of buisness.

  7. I have written a letter to the manager asking for clarification, but have not received a response.

    I don't buy the insurance thing either, as they do not prohibit concealed carry any other time. You may have a point that once you fire it, then they know you have it, but that's no different than asking to see your CHL license at the door and then allowing you to carry concealed to the range.

    I usually have my carry gun on me, but I almost always have one or two in my range bag as well. Would you guys consider a weapon in a range bag to be concealed??? My range bag is pretty non discript, with no gun manufacturer logo on it.

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    Concealed in Range Bag?

    If a fanny pack or purse is considered a concealed carry location for a permit holder, it sure seems like your range bag/shoulder duffel would count too.
    Reality, DEAL with IT!

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    No Bass pro stores in my area, like Glockfan said could be because they know you are when you leave. I would try and fine another place to practice. conservation clubs are great places, I find mine to be very friendly and alot of extra things to do outside of the norm.
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    My Pro Bass allow ccw holders to go and come from the range without trigger locks, no ccw and they put trigger locks on at the front door, the range takes them off and puts them back on when leaving.
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  11. For those of you interested, here is the reply I received today from the General Manager. Sounds ridiculous, but I will comply with their policy.


    "What you were told is correct, once you have brought the gun into view
    of the range master or you declare that you have a gun even with a CHL
    he is then obligated to treat it as no longer concealed and lock it upon
    re-entry to the store for you to go to the greeter stand and have the
    lock removed.

    I am sorry if there is any confusion or inconveniences, if you have any
    further questions don't hesitate to ask."

    Thank you,
    Michael Black
    General Manager
    Bass Pro Shops Outdoor World
    Grapevine TX

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