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    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Tampa Bay Area

    New employee hand book! Not good

    Well, the company that I work for was recently bought. I made it through the "cutting the fat" layoffs but just received a link to the new employer's employee handbook. Previous handbook just said no illegal weapons were allowed. This is what the new handbook says. :( ..........

    No form of weapon (e.g.,
    knives, guns, explosives or
    toxic substances) will be
    allowed on Company
    premises or at Company sponsored
    functions. This
    includes concealed weapons
    for which a person may have
    a permit.
    Employees who
    bring weapons on Company
    premises or to functions,
    imply they have such weapons
    on Company premises or at
    functions or make statements
    that appear to threaten the
    safety of others may be
    subject to disciplinary action,
    including termination. This
    provision applies to any
    person who is on Company
    premises, with the exception
    of law enforcement or
    designated security guards.

    What I don't understand is how they think they can enforce this at functions offsite (company Christmas party, ect). They can make stupid policies when on there private property but not on property they don't own!!!

    I will not tell you what I think of this policy but by Florida state law my work place is not an off limits place sooooo........

    Sorry I had to vent.......

  3. #2
    Don't ask, don't tell.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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  5. #4
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Honolulu, HI & Salt Lake City, UT
    Look at the wording closely and think of the NRA definition of "weapon". All of my pistols fall under the category of "firearms". As far as I'm concerned they're not "weapons" because they aren't specifically for use against another human being. They are "sporting tools" that I use for legal activity. Yes, I do have a permit to carry one or more of them on my person. No, I don't threaten anyone. I'm a law abiding citizen who would like to exercise his 2A rights whenever possible.

    I've pretty much changed my way of speaking to folks. Don't use the word "weapon" when talking about my "firearms". Puts a different picture in people's minds and it's funny how many folks are more at ease by changing one word in our conversations.

    "A few well placed shots with a .22LR is a lot better than a bunch of solid misses with a .44 mag!" Glock Armorer, NRA Chief RSO, Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun, Muzzleloading Rifle, Muzzleloading Shotgun, and Home Firearm Safety Training Counselor

  6. #5

    On the other hand remember

    if they discover and terminate you are not going to collect unemployment unless your state law specifically prohibits employers from having policies such as this. Be VERY careful. And yes, they can terminate you for carrying at the company picnic at some off-premises location too.

    You can always polish up the resume and float it out to see whether you have any other options.
    Reality, DEAL with IT!

  7. #6
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    deep in the Ozarks
    If your weapon remains well concealed, no one will be the wiser.
    An armed society is a polite society.

  8. #7
    Roger that on the "don't ask, don't tell". Of course, the decision is yours as to what you are willing to risk. My company policy states that "Possession of dangerous or unauthorized materials, such as explosives or firearms is prohibited", and may result in disciplinary action, so it's up to me. But I also carry two Spyderco knives, one in each pocket, which could technically be prohibited as well. I still carry those, too.

  9. #8
    there are a lot of us in that same boat. the fire dept which i work for has a policy of no firearms allowed in the building by employees or volunteers. not really a city policy but just a departmental policy brought up after one of the many gun totin volunteers was showin off his new toy and shot a hole in the floor. They are not so stringent as they will terminate anyone but leave that option open in case someone makes a threat. the one good thing about it is they recognize our personal vehicles as our mobile realestate and anything contained within off limits to their scrutiny.

  10. #9
    Glad I am retired, and carry is welcome at all my BBQ's :=)
    Glock Carrier in SC.


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    echo_5 Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by HK4U View Post
    Don't ask, don't tell.
    +1. I can't carry at work either. So I don't ;)

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