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  1. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Glock Fan View Post
    ...I won't be signing off on anyone until I'm absolutely sure that the possess the knowledge, skills AND attitude to be a NRA Certified Instructor.
    This is the level of self-accountability that I was looking for when I selected a TC for my instructor course - the course was tough, and not everyone made it. Those that did were 'commissioned' with the understanding that the TC would share the consequences of the instructor's actions. This added a level of personal integrity around the professional ethics: if I provide instruction that falls beneath the NRA (and TC's) standards, I would discredit myself and the program.

    Thanks for your integrity, gf!
    Cheers,
    Joe Short
    First Defense, LLC (Culpeper, Virginia)

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  3. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Regular_Joe View Post
    This is the level of self-accountability that I was looking for when I selected a TC for my instructor course - the course was tough, and not everyone made it. Those that did were 'commissioned' with the understanding that the TC would share the consequences of the instructor's actions. This added a level of personal integrity around the professional ethics: if I provide instruction that falls beneath the NRA (and TC's) standards, I would discredit myself and the program.

    Thanks for your integrity, gf!
    Others have asked it but no one has answered it so I will ask again. What happens if you fail to pass the class? Any class not just the instructor course? I think some are hoping for an answer along the lines of "they refund your money" when the unhappy truth is more then likely your out the cash. But lets get some answers out there for the people who have been asking.

    THEY MAY TAKE OUR LIVES BUT THEY'LL NEVER TAKE OUR FREEDOM!!!!!

  4. Quote Originally Posted by S&WM&P40 View Post
    Others have asked it but no one has answered it so I will ask again. What happens if you fail to pass the class? Any class not just the instructor course? I think some are hoping for an answer along the lines of "they refund your money" when the unhappy truth is more then likely your out the cash. But lets get some answers out there for the people who have been asking.
    I'm willing to bet that you forfeit your $ with most TC's.
    Quick to the gun, Sure of your grip. Quick to the threat, sure of your shot. - Chris Costa

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    Quote Originally Posted by S&WM&P40 View Post
    Others have asked it but no one has answered it so I will ask again. What happens if you fail to pass the class? Any class not just the instructor course? I think some are hoping for an answer along the lines of "they refund your money" when the unhappy truth is more then likely your out the cash. But lets get some answers out there for the people who have been asking.
    Why would they refund your money if you don't pass? Have they done any less work presenting the information and trying to train you? Do you have zero accountability for your actions or inactions?

    Your question displays the mentality of too many people in this country, that being if you don't succeed that it must be someone elses responsibility.
    "I believe we should achieve a national standard on gun control, and that standard should be none whatsoever."

  6. Quote Originally Posted by hp-hobo View Post
    Why would they refund your money if you don't pass? Have they done any less work presenting the information and trying to train you? Do you have zero accountability for your actions or inactions?

    Your question displays the mentality of too many people in this country, that being if you don't succeed that it must be someone elses responsibility.
    Harsh.

    Most TC's i've seen advertise very vague requirements such as "proficiency with a handgun". Like I've said - I've been told that to pass you must do 3" groups at 25 yards and others i've been told that there is no live fire as part of the class.

    So while you're attitude is that of "its your responsibility" that is not entirely true as TC's should be upfront about their expectations PRIOR to people registering. If you are made aware of what you must do to 'pass' the course, you attend and fail then absolutely no refund. However, if you don't know what attributes/skillset a TC is looking for - then I put that on either the individual signing up for not asking what's expected OR the TC who did not completely convey what is expected of prospective instructors.
    Quick to the gun, Sure of your grip. Quick to the threat, sure of your shot. - Chris Costa

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    Quote Originally Posted by S&WM&P40 View Post
    Others have asked it but no one has answered it so I will ask again. What happens if you fail to pass the class? Any class not just the instructor course? I think some are hoping for an answer along the lines of "they refund your money" when the unhappy truth is more then likely your out the cash. But lets get some answers out there for the people who have been asking.
    When you attend an instructors level course, you will have to meet some requirements before passing the course. There are written tests, both the test offered in the course you are training to teach as well as a test for the instructors course you are taking.

    You must make a 90 or above on the instructors level test. There is no reason not to make that score, since the test is open book.

    If any student acts in a unsafe manner at any time, the TC has some options. If the student does something unsafe and responds to training, the TC will most like move on with him. If the student continues to act in an unsafe manner, the TC may send him home. It is up the discretion of the TC.

    There is really no reason not to pass an instructors level course if you are an experienced and safe shooter and have the ability to learn.

    Regarding the return of the fees, it is up to the TC. When you take a course from a TC, it is an agreement between you and the TC, not you and the NRA. There are no rules regarding return of funds. The same applies when you are teaching a course to your students. If fact, most TC's and instructors will return the fees, but it is up to them.

    Hope this helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClearSightTactical View Post
    Harsh.

    Most TC's i've seen advertise very vague requirements such as "proficiency with a handgun". Like I've said - I've been told that to pass you must do 3" groups at 25 yards and others i've been told that there is no live fire as part of the class.

    So while you're attitude is that of "its your responsibility" that is not entirely true as TC's should be upfront about their expectations PRIOR to people registering. If you are made aware of what you must do to 'pass' the course, you attend and fail then absolutely no refund. However, if you don't know what attributes/skillset a TC is looking for - then I put that on either the individual signing up for not asking what's expected OR the TC who did not completely convey what is expected of prospective instructors.
    Harsh? Try honest.

    It's the responsibility of the student to find out what will be required of them whether it's NRA instructor training or cooking class. You even said so. The only time it would be the TC's fault is if they out and out lied about requirements. But then if that was the case, they probably wouldn't refund your money anyway.
    "I believe we should achieve a national standard on gun control, and that standard should be none whatsoever."

  9. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by hp-hobo View Post
    Why would they refund your money if you don't pass? Have they done any less work presenting the information and trying to train you? Do you have zero accountability for your actions or inactions?

    Your question displays the mentality of too many people in this country, that being if you don't succeed that it must be someone elses responsibility.
    LOL take a chill pill and try not to live up your sig title to much! People had asked and they did not get a answer so I asked for them. Why are you always coming off so hostel? You know they have a new operation that can remove that stick from your ***** maybe you should look into it.

    THEY MAY TAKE OUR LIVES BUT THEY'LL NEVER TAKE OUR FREEDOM!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by S&WM&P40 View Post
    LOL take a chill pill and try not to live up your sig title to much! People had asked and they did not get a answer so I asked for them. Why are you always coming off so hostel? You know they have a new operation that can remove that stick from your ***** maybe you should look into it.
    So let me get this straight. Being honest is wrong, but making unfounded personal attacks (see your post above) is okay.

    Got it.
    "I believe we should achieve a national standard on gun control, and that standard should be none whatsoever."

  11. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by hp-hobo View Post
    So let me get this straight. Being honest is wrong, but making unfounded personal attacks (see your post above) is okay.

    Got it.
    Who said you are wrong? No one that I know of. As for what I said I stand by it(everything but the sig comment). Most posts that I read that you make are rude and hostel. Be honest all you want but don't cry about it when people respond to your hostility with their own hostility. You aimed your replay at me when I made the post(if you read it) asking for other people who wanted the answer. Again if you read the post I stated what I think would happen.

    THEY MAY TAKE OUR LIVES BUT THEY'LL NEVER TAKE OUR FREEDOM!!!!!

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