These are the people that support "reasonable restrictions" and "common sense gun law
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 11

Thread: These are the people that support "reasonable restrictions" and "common sense gun law

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Colorado Rocky Mountain High
    Posts
    3,900

    These are the people that support "reasonable restrictions" and "common sense gun law

    "In fact, the assault weapons ban will have no significant effect either on the crime rate or on personal security. Nonetheless, it is a good idea . . . . Its only real justification is not to reduce crime but to desensitize the public to the regulation of weapons in preparation for their ultimate confiscation." Charles Krauthammer

    We're going to have to take one step at a time, and the first step is necessarily -- given the political realities -- going to be very modest. . . . e'll have to start working again to strengthen that law, and then again to strengthen the next law, and maybe again and again. Right now, though, we'd be satisfied not with half a loaf but with a slice. Our ultimate goal -- total control of handguns in the United States -- is going to take time. . . . The first problem is to slow down the number of handguns being produced and sold in this country. The second problem is to get handguns registered. The final problem is to make possession of all handguns and all handgun ammunition-except for the military, police, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs, and licensed gun collectors-totally illegal.

    Pete Shields, founder of Handgun Control, Inc. which is now the brady campaign

    "Brady Bill is "the minimum step" that Congress should take to control handguns. "We need much stricter gun control, and eventually we should bar the ownership of handguns except in a few cases,"

    Rep. William L. Clay D-St. Louis, Mo

    I think you have to do it a step at a time and I think that is what the NRA is most concerned about, is that it will happen one very small step at a time, so that by the time people have "woken up" to what's happened, it's gone farther than what they feel the consensus of American citizens would be. But it does have to go one step at a time and the beginning of the banning of semi-assault military weapons, that are military weapons, not "household" weapons, is the first step."

    Stockton, California Mayor Barbara Fass

    "I shortly will introduce legislation banning the sale, manufacture or possession of handguns (with exceptions for law enforcement and licensed target clubs). . . . It is time to act. We cannot go on like this. Ban them!"

    Sen. John H. Chafee R.-R.I., In View of Handguns' Effects, There's Only One Answer: A Ban, Minneapolis Star Tribune, June 15, 1992

    ""My staff and I right now are working on a comprehensive gun-control bill. We don't have all the details, but for instance, regulating the sale and purchase of bullets. Ultimately, I would like to see the manufacture and possession of handguns banned except for military and police use. But that's the endgame. And in the meantime, there are some specific things that we can do with legislation."

    Bobby Rush; Democrat, U.S. House of Representatives, Chicago Tribune, Dec. 5, 1999

    "Mr. Speaker, my bill prohibits the importation, exportation, manufacture, sale, purchase, transfer, receipt, possession, or transportation of handguns and handgun ammunition. It establishes a 6-month grace period for the turning in of handguns. It provides many exceptions for gun clubs, hunting clubs, gun collectors, and other people of that kind."

    Rep. Major Owens (D-Brooklyn, N.Y.), 139 Cong. Rec. H9088 at H9094, Nov. 10, 1993

    "I would like to dispute that. Truthfully. I know it's an amendment. I know it's in the Constitution. But you know what? Enough! I would like to say, I think there should be a law -- and I know this is extreme -- that no one can have a gun in the U.S. If you have a gun, you go to jail. Only the police should have guns."

    Rosie Takes on the NRA, Ottawa Sun, April 29, 1999

    "A gun-control movement worthy of the name would insist that President Clinton move beyond his proposals for controls -- such as expanding background checks at gun shows and stopping the import of high-capacity magazines -- and immediately call on Congress to pass far-reaching industry regulation like the Firearms Safety and Consumer Protection Act introduced by Senator Robert Torricelli, Democrat of New Jersey, and Representative Patrick Kennedy, Democrat of Rhode Island. Their measure would give the Treasury Department health and safety authority over the gun industry, and any rational regulator with that authority would ban handguns."

    Josh Sugarmann (executive director of the Violence Policy Center, Dispense With the Half Steps and Ban Killing Machines, Houston Chronicle, Nov. 5, 1999

    "We will never fully solve our nation's horrific problem of gun violence unless we ban the manufacture and sale of handguns and semiautomatic assault weapons."

    Jeff Muchnick, Legislative Director, Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, Better Yet, Ban All Handguns, USA Today, Dec. 29, 1993

    "The goal of CSGV is the orderly elimination of the private sale of handguns and assault weapons in the United States."

    Coalition to Stop Gun Violence, http://www.csgv.org/content/coalition/coal_intro.html (visited June 20, 2000) (boldface added) ("The Coalition to Stop Gun Violence is composed of 44 civic, professional and religious organizations and 120,000 individual members that advocate for a ban on the sale and possession of handguns and assault weapons.")

    "Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition of private firearms is the goal." U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno, December 1993

    "We're bending the law as far as we can to ban an entirely new class of guns." Rahm Emmanuel

    "We're going to hammer guns on the anvil of relentless legislative strategy! We're going to beat guns into submission!" Charles Schumer

    "Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of all Americans to feel safe." Diane Feinstein

    "I don't care about crime, I just want to get the guns." Howard Metzenbaum

    "I am one who believes that as a first step the U.S. should move expeditiously to disarm the civilian population, other than police and security officers, of all handguns, pistols and revolvers ...no one should have a right to anonymous ownership or use of a gun." Dean Morris

    "I do not believe in people owning guns. Guns should be owned only by the police and military. I am going to do everything I can to disarm this state." Michael Dukakis

    "If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them...'Mr. and Mrs. America, turn 'em all in,' I would have done it." Diane Feinstein

    "No, we're not looking at how to control criminals ... we're talking about banning the AK-47 and semi-automatic guns." --U.S. Senator Howard Metzenbaum

    "What good does it do to ban some guns? All guns should be banned." U.S. Senator Howard Metzanbaum, Democrat from Ohio


    "Until we can ban all of them , then we might as well ban none." U.S. Senator Howard Metzenbaum, Senate Hearings 1993


    "I'm not interested in getting a bill that deals with airport security... all I want to do is get at plastic guns." -U.S. Senator Howard Metzenbaum, 1993

    "Nobody should be owning a gun which does not have a sporting purpose." Janet Reno

    "We have to start with a ban on the manufacturing and import of handguns. From there we register the guns which are currently owned, and follow that with additional bans and acquisitions of handguns and rifles with no sporting purpose." Major Owens

    "If it were up to me we'd ban them all." Mel Reynolds CNN's Crossfire, December 9, 1993
    See, it's mumbo jumbo like that and skinny little lizards like you thinking they the last dragon that gives Kung Fu a bad name.
    http://www.gunrightsmedia.com/ Internet forum dedicated to second amendment

  2.   
  3. #2
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    Las Vegas, Nevada
    Posts
    623
    Good post.

    We're gonna have a mess if they ever come to get mine.

  4. From my Cold Dead Hands

    From my Cold Dead Hands

    All they Need is one More Vote on the Supreme Court and it's a Reality.

  5. #4
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Eastern Colorado
    Posts
    269
    The Brady Campaign holds a much different view.

    http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http...qfL2Kk&h=74d4c

    Paul appeared at the National Womens Democratic Club for a discussion about America's gun policy, specifically the myths like the one that "The 2nd Amendment prevents any regulation of guns." Paul Helmke explains the sensible and legal basis for gun laws
    Colorado Gun Owners - COGO
    A discussion forum for Colorado Gun Owners.

  6. #5
    "Resonable retrictions" and "Common sense gun laws" are about as vague and ambiguous statements as "global warming" and "evolution."

    But then again, the anti-gun folk are experts at pulling the political and emotional ploy when needed.

    For all the calls for "Civility" in Arizona, they seemed to quickly forget about them in Wisconsin.

  7. #6
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    SE Florida
    Posts
    1,880
    Dear Treo,

    I support reasonable restrictions and common sense. I didn't see any of that in those quotes (some of which are rather dubious. I'd love to see a video clip of Janet Reno saying her goal was to ban all privately held guns, among others). I don't support any of what was posted.

    Also, a lot of those quotes were from the 90s. Any of those come to fruition?? Many of those quotes were (allegedly) made by duly elected officials. Apparently the citizens of their cities/districts/states/whatever agree with what those officials are saying....that's why they keep them in office. IMO, many of the people that were quoted are just as much a part of the lunatic fringe as the folks on these boards who believe WMDs should be available for public use.

    I don't think that a total ban will happen any more than I think nukes will be legal for private ownership one day.
    (Insert random tough-guy quote here)
    "See my gun?? Aren't you impressed?" - Anonymous sheepdog
    The hardware is the same, but the software is vastly different.

  8. #7
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Colorado Rocky Mountain High
    Posts
    3,900
    The reason those plans didn’t come to fruition was because the NRA and organizations like it fought like hell to protect our second amendment rights. The fact is that the leaders of every single gun control organization out there have stated that their end goal is the banning of civilian firearms ownership in America period.

    They’ve said it over and over again. Why should I believe them now when they say that’s not what they want?

    Please explain exactly what you see as reasonable restrictions and common sense gun laws. I’m going to disagree w/ you on most of them but I’d like to see where you stand.

    If I was running the show I would be able to walk into any gun store in town and purchase any thing on the TOE and for an infantry man.

    Artillery , mortars and up would be owned by the State Militia

    I would probably keep NICS because I can’t prove it doesn’t stop criminals from getting guns retail.

    Private sales would be just that, private.

    Vermont carry would be the law of the land

    And I’d end the War on (some) Drugs and let all the 3rd strike doper who got caught w/ one gram too many out of prison and keep the violent offenders locked up.
    See, it's mumbo jumbo like that and skinny little lizards like you thinking they the last dragon that gives Kung Fu a bad name.
    http://www.gunrightsmedia.com/ Internet forum dedicated to second amendment

  9. #8
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    SE Florida
    Posts
    1,880
    Everybody in your original post was nothing more than a grandstanding crackpot and I would also "fight like hell" if I thought any of their outrageous statements had any real shot of becoming reality.

    I've stated my position on restrictions many times:

    Background checks for purchases
    Permits required to carry in public (CC or OC)
    Every state a "Shall Issue" with OC permitted. 100% reciprocity so your permit is good in all 50 states.
    Additional licensing required for full-auto.
    No WMDs or explosives of any sort....too much collateral damage.
    18+ yrs old to carry.
    No carry in schools when children are present but I'm OK with carrying on college campuses (private shcools can make their own regulations).
    I support some of the carry restrictions such as no guns in courthouses or commercial airline flights, no drinking alcohol while carrying, maybe a couple of others.

    Nothing I've listed would stop a law-abiding, adult US citizen from protecting themselves, their home, or their families. Can't afford a permit and the training course that would be required to carry?? I bet the NRA and their billions of dollars would be more than happy to start a fund whereby the financially-challenged among us could apply for aid.

    I realize that this is a pipe-dream for me just as your permitless, unrestricted carry is as well. Because of state's rights and the due-process written into the Constitution, gun laws in this country will always be a hodgepodge of can-do-this and can't-do-that.
    (Insert random tough-guy quote here)
    "See my gun?? Aren't you impressed?" - Anonymous sheepdog
    The hardware is the same, but the software is vastly different.

  10. #9
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Creswell, Oregon
    Posts
    3,865
    Progressive liberals are very good at doing things incrementally. If you listen close they will tell you exactly what they have in mind. Like the unions, they could care less about the children or the rank and file. It's all about power, money and control. They also don't like the fact that anyone might volunteer to do anything. That undermines their control.
    "You can get a lot accomplished if you don't care who gets the credit" - Ronald Reagan

  11. #10
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    FT Bragg, NC
    Posts
    68
    [QUOTE=B2Tall;189595]Everybody in your original post was nothing more than a grandstanding crackpot and I would also "fight like hell" if I thought any of their outrageous statements had any real shot of becoming reality.

    I've stated my position on restrictions many times:

    Background checks for purchases Sure, why not
    Permits required to carry in public (CC or OC) Nope, Constitutional Carry
    Every state a "Shall Issue" with OC permitted. 100% reciprocity so your permit is good in all 50 states. With no permits, no need for it
    Additional licensing required for full-auto. Absolutely not. What is the need for it?
    No WMDs or explosives of any sort....too much collateral damage. WMD, depends on your definition- anything NBC deff not. Explosives, why shouldn't I be able to have them?
    18+ yrs old to carry. Yup, I'm good with this 1
    No carry in schools when children are present but I'm OK with carrying on college campuses (private shcools can make their own regulations). I can't think of a better reason than children to be armed. and absolutely on college campuses
    I support some of the carry restrictions such as no guns in courthouses or commercial airline flights, no drinking alcohol while carrying, maybe a couple of others. Airplanes? think 9/11 woulda went as far as it did? the rest I'll agree with

    QUOTE]

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Quantcast