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    I just don't think that it is an actual US military unit. The Lt's uniform is all wrong he pants are bloused worse than a recruits etc. As for The weapon choice at first I thought the intent would be to mount their carry weapon then unmount it when they landed. after seeing the intended use it just doesn't make sense you could just as easily mount 2 M249 Saws that are meant to sustain a high cyclic reate of fire and are belt fed with the additional ability to change barrels and dismount they weapon and carry it away should the need arise without lugging 2 ammo cans and hoses. USASOC has the funding and the technologhy to get any weapon they perceive a need for and if they needed to outsource a new weapon platform you can guarantee someone way above a LT would be on hand to test it. Just my .02 cents

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    It is a reality show, take it for what it is worth.

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    More like 'constructed' reality in my opinion. Some of their customer situations seem contrived to me. I like the owner's persona, but having seen what appears to be their 'fly by night' methods, I'm not sure I'd want to buy anything custom or smithed from them.
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    Brown Water Navy could also be a cover. Like "Embassy Supply". Where if you enter the building you better have ID visible or the roving guard might ruin your life. My take was that it may be part of the same 3 letter outfit.

  6. The Saw uses the same ammo that an M-16 uses, it's just belted. JSOC can go outside the normal procurement channels to get weapons for special uses, however, I really don't think that those guys were Navy or any other military organization, the uniforms didn't fit and and I don't know any SpecOps guys who would be filmed. A lot of these type of shows are somewhat "scripted", so it wouldn't suprise me if some of the stuff on this show is. Like Momma used to say, don't believe everything you see on tv.

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    The Saw uses the same ammo that an M-16 uses, it's just belted. JSOC can go outside the normal procurement channels to get weapons for special uses, however, I really don't think that those guys were Navy or any other military organization, the uniforms didn't fit and and I don't know any SpecOps guys who would be filmed. A lot of these type of shows are somewhat "scripted", so it wouldn't suprise me if some of the stuff on this show is. Like Momma used to say, don't believe everything you see on tv.
    The uniforms didn't look right to me but then how would I know since I wasn't in the military. I know the SAW can use an M-16/M-4 box mag, but could the SAW use the Beta Mags they had on this rig or is the receiver too wide? Maybe they don't like belts flopping around.

    Even if this were a real thing for the military I could see them using stand-ins for the military guys. They had a "defense contractor" on a few episodes back that also didn't look right either - looked too much like an actor playing a defense contractor.

  8. Brown Water Navy refers to the naval units operating modified Boston Whalers in the costal, delta, and fresh water areas of SVN. Normally mounted twin M2 50cal in a tub or pedastal on the front deck and M60's on the waist position(many variations). They got into some pretty hairy stuff while patroling the narrow, winding waterways.
    The twin AR setup would be absolutely worthless for any real need due to the small caliber and lack of belt fed capabilty.
    Personally, I think "redjacket" is a load of BS from the get go.

  9. You have to pay special attention to the show sometimes. The Navy guy said that his CO had given him permission to use the river range. He did not identify the LT as his commander. The LT was identified as a Special Forces Armorer, while that may have been true in his past he is now a civilian armorer who works for the Navy. He was likely a LT in the past so out of respect they call him LT.

    The "Brown Water Navy" typically refers to units that operate on inland rivers and can refer to both JSOC personnel and regular Navy. Not the best use of the term on the show but then who cares the show is about Red Jacket not the Navy.

    Now, I agree, the concept of a sustained fire M16 is kind of silly. Why not use the M249 or any number of belt fed weapons systems that already have a mount system. It makes you wonder what the Navy guys were thinking.

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    The remotely operated turret was designed for the .50BMG, and specificly, it was designed so the operator could still pop up out of the manhole on top of the Hummer, flip a couple of levers on the turret, and the rifle comes right back off ready to be employed "shoulder mounted".

    I missed the episode at hand, but that couldn't possibly be the point in using otherwise ordinary M-16 lowers if the barrels are tethered to the deck with a water cooling system.
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  11. While I do like the show, that particular show was as phony as a 3-dollar bill. Spent 21 years doing the samething (Army) and there's no way I would go into combat with a weapons system that dates back to World War Two!!

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