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    This just goes to show how effective the anti gun media has been a demonizing guns. We have been told for years that guns are evil and kill people so even though there is no real evidence to back up the claims that cocked and locked single action semi auto pistols can go off for no reason and hurt someone. Every accidental firing I have heard of has turned out to be someone making a mistake and then blaming the gun for their own stupidity. I have been carrying a cocked and locked single action semi auto hand gun for over 20 years. I have never had the safety come off safe, or had the gun just go off. Whether it be a 1911, or my Browning Hi-Power. They are as safe as any other handgun on the market today. If you do not want it to go off then keep your booger hook off the trigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S&WM&P40 View Post
    Right On! That's kinda what I was getting at with this thread. Being new to 1911's(Stop me if I'm wrong) on top of the thumb safety and grip safety there is also a firing pin block is there not?

    I don't understand why people say carrying the 1911 "Cocked and Locked" is unsafe just because it has a external hammer. When they carry the vary same way with their DA only firearms, only they never see the hammer held back because it's an internal hammer.
    There is no firing pin block on a 1911 that has a Series 70 slide like my S.A. Operator. My Colt has a Series 80 slide and it does have an internal firing pin block. I will take a picture of them side by side so you can see it. It is pretty obvious on the underside or inside of the slide. There is what looks like a little button in one of the slots. I could almost bet that the Series 80 slide came out to make some nervous Nellies feel better by having the firing pin block there.

    Last edited by NRA Lifer and Proud; 05-16-2011 at 12:26 PM. Reason: Added photo
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  4. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by scouser View Post
    I agree, not arguing with any of that. I switched because, for me, it was easier to accept being given permission to go out and buy a new gun than to argue with my wife. I was about to try the futile exercise of trying to argue my position on the premise of attempting to educate her when my internal voice screamed at me 'STFU, she's actually telling you to buy another one, just accept she's right'
    Oh I wouldn't have argued either and I was not downing your choice. Hope you didn't take my comment in that light. Handguns are such personal choices and what works for one may not work for the next.

    Some times listening to the inner voices pays off .... and you get a new gun!
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  5. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by NRA Lifer and Proud
    ... I was not downing your choice. Hope you didn't take my comment in that light...
    I didn't, just wanted to clarify my comments as it seems you did too.

    Yes, the inner voice had a good point to make that day

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    Quote Originally Posted by jelo45110 View Post
    If you do not want it to go off then keep your booger hook off the trigger.
    This one comment made the whole thread worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S&WM&P40 View Post
    Right On! That's kinda what I was getting at with this thread. Being new to 1911's(Stop me if I'm wrong) on top of the thumb safety and grip safety there is also a firing pin block is there not?

    Depends on the manufacturer but the original design didn't have one. The original , original design didn't have a safety period.

    My only objection to carrying cocked and locked is this weird thing I have in my head that I'm going to drop the pistol and break the hammer off of it but I know that's just a mental block in my own head.
    See, it's mumbo jumbo like that and skinny little lizards like you thinking they the last dragon that gives Kung Fu a bad name.
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    I think there is something to the "out of sight out mind" theory. Seeing a weapon with the hammer pulled back LOOKS more threatening than one that doesn't have a visble hammer. Is it more dangerous? No. But someone that is not familiar with the mechanics of either will automatically percieve more danger. I know this because I just laid my XDM .40 and my Kimber Pro Carry (both cocked, no ammo. Kim saftey on) on the table and asked my three sons and my wife what weapon is in the most unsafe condition right now assuming they are loaded? They all picked the Kimber because they said it was cocked. My wife and oldest son should have known better, but there is something about seeing that yanked hammer that intimidates. Anyway, there is the redneck acid test for ya! that'll be $10 bucks please!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rudiepop View Post
    I think there is something to the "out of sight out mind" theory. Seeing a weapon with the hammer pulled back LOOKS more threatening than one that doesn't have a visble hammer. Is it more dangerous? No. But someone that is not familiar with the mechanics of either will automatically percieve more danger. I know this because I just laid my XDM .40 and my Kimber Pro Carry (both cocked, no ammo. Kim saftey on) on the table and asked my three sons and my wife what weapon is in the most unsafe condition right now assuming they are loaded? They all picked the Kimber because they said it was cocked. My wife and oldest son should have known better, but there is something about seeing that yanked hammer that intimidates. Anyway, there is the redneck acid test for ya! that'll be $10 bucks please!
    Do you take payment plans? Say 1 cent a day? LOL j/k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S&WM&P40 View Post
    Do you take payment plans? Say 1 cent a day? LOL j/k.
    I take installments ... but only in cheeseburgers :)
    We ALL shall see the Lord one day .... please don't make me set up the meeting.

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    Looks like someone needs to fire up the grill and get cookin' LOL
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