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  1. If there's one good thing about ccw in california it's that signs don't mean anything in regards to carrying my gun. :) you can even carry on campuses.

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    I guess you can write off ever participating in "wear your CCW Badge to work day".

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottbland247 View Post
    if I am paying you I can set the requirements I want (clothing, language, demeanor, production speed etc) if you choose not to accept my requirements I don't let you keep the job.....there is no infringement on you at all, your employment is at will and continues upon both parties continuing to voluntarily accept the terms of the other party
    You can set any "rules/requirements" that you want, doesnt mean they are correct or "lawful". BTW, I never said employment was a right.... I said being armed was...

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Axeanda45 View Post
    You can set any "rules/requirements" that you want, doesnt mean they are correct or "lawful". BTW, I never said employment was a right.... I said being armed was...
    You seem to be missing something outside of the ME environment that you are living in. The employer has the RIGHT to do what he feels will keep him and his employees safe at HIS place of business according to the constitution. Just because he thinks differently than you doesn't make him wrong. For you to ASSUME that your rights trump his is a bit arrogant and YES, he is being lawful. Our rights for anything stop when it infringes on someone else's rights.

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    The same argument of "This is my place of business and I will do what I want" has been used to hire/not hire people on the basis of the color of their skin or religion. Laws have been passed preventing this (supported by the 14th amendment). Why shouldn't laws be passed protecting employer discrimination of lawful gun owners in support of the 2nd amendment. I guess you could argue that the 2nd amendment in itself should prevent employers from doing this however the Supreme court certainly hasn't ruled on this yet.

    I believe though that many employer prohibit guns on their property or "while on the clock" to provide them a legal shield in case something happens (SD shooting, Negligent discharge etc). How about we pass laws that hold employers immune from civil liability for firearms related actions by employees who carry legally. One of the big incentives for employers to prevent CCW holders from carrying would evaporate, and this is a less draconian approach then trying to pass another law that tells employers what they can or can't do in their place of business.

    As far as the moral component of it, I think it's Immoral for the employer to disarm you and then send you to crime ridden portions of the city. Will they provide an armed escort as you go? Didn't think so? To quote Eli Wallach in the Magnificent 7. "When a thief steals from a thief he is pardoned for a thousand years" ... Carry on but do it discreetly (deep carry an LCP, or P3AT or something similar).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guper View Post
    If there's one good thing about ccw in california it's that signs don't mean anything in regards to carrying my gun. :) you can even carry on campuses.
    I think you're missing the point. My question had nothing to do w/ legalities, you have accepted a position w/ "Treo's Widget Works" knowing that I have a company rule that you may not carry a firearm (regardless of circumstances) on my time. You are allowed to keep a firearm in your vehicle (not in a company vehicle) but you are not allowed to bring a firearm into the widget factory nor carry it w/ you on company business (which will only be conducted in a company vehicle).

    Is it ethical for you to accept the job knowing you have no intention of following that rule ?
    See, it's mumbo jumbo like that and skinny little lizards like you thinking they the last dragon that gives Kung Fu a bad name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G50AE View Post
    I guess you can write off ever participating in "wear your CCW Badge to work day".
    You can wear a badge all you want (you can even bring Daisy to work) just no guns
    See, it's mumbo jumbo like that and skinny little lizards like you thinking they the last dragon that gives Kung Fu a bad name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treo View Post
    You can wear a badge all you want (you can even bring Daisy to work) just no guns
    Daisey doesn't wear no stinkin badges!

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    Quote Originally Posted by G50AE View Post
    Daisey doesn't wear no stinkin badges!
    I'm guessing Daisy doesn't have a permit either
    See, it's mumbo jumbo like that and skinny little lizards like you thinking they the last dragon that gives Kung Fu a bad name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treo View Post
    I'm guessing Daisy doesn't have a permit either
    She always struck me as the Wyoming type. (First state to allow women's sufferage and now also a constitutional carry state for residents.)

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