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    Balance between safety and vigilance

    I've been around guns my whole life, I learned to shoot when I was 4. I'm also a former Marine, so needless to say I'm very comfortable around guns and also with handling them. Before I met my wife 6 years ago I was an avid hunter and sport shooter, I haven't had much much in the way of either of those things since. She's not so comfortable around guns although, I think she might be ready to take the next step and take an educational course. We also have a little boy who is about to turn 5, his is interested in guns and wants to learn to shoot. Personally I think he's too young...

    Finally getting to my topic; I'm considering to start carrying concealed and also, I would like to have easy access to a handgun in my home at night for security purposes. I also don't want my son to be able to get his hands on it. What is the best way to go about doing this? Everywhere I'm reading that, "What good is a handgun unless it's loaded?" or "In a hostile situation, you may not have time to load a round in the chamber."

    How can I keep my family safe while keeping my family safe?

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    Secure a lockbox or gunvault to the floor in your bedroom closet. Keep it locked up when there is any child living in the house.
    GOD, GUNS and GUITARS

  4. I have no idea how smart your son is but if he is old enough to understand anything, you should be able to make him understand to leave your firearms alone. ;-)

  5. Semper Fi Loffmar77 from the proud father of a Marine!

    You have your emotional hands full I think. The good news is that you recognize and are willing to accept your duty as a husband and father to protect yourself and your family. As a former Marine / hunter, you're gun savvy which lends itself to concealed carry, so get on with it. But first you need to have a frank conversation with your wife. If you have a gun in your house, you must not, repeat not allow her to avoid learning gun safety and shooting. If she is not all in, she is a liability. You would never take a boating safety course and then boat with your wife who has not taken the same course right? I don't have facts but I would bet that most boaters take the family course so everyone on board is competent to handle the boat in any situation, but never do the same with the guns, which makes zero sense to me. I have this conversation all the time with guys I know. They have a gun but their wife hates guns. She's their wife, they share everything except the knowledge and proficiency to handle a weapon. One day she may have no choice and it will be too late.

    She must be 100% in on all things guns in your home. If you plan only to carry, she must know when you do and when you don't, when you are and when you are not. She must know the laws and how to handle the weapon in the event you are incapacitated in a motor vehicle accident or for any other reason. If you are taken to a hospital and your vehicle is going to be towed, what happens to your side arm? She will have to take control of it and if she does not know how, you are putting her life and the safety of others at risk, period. My lady is a former cop...we get along great in the gun department!

    As for your son, you know him best but to me 5 is a bit too young. Get your weapons locked up! I recommend a biometric fingerprint safe. There are several great models that can be mounted in drawers, on a desk or to the floor and can be programmed for up to 10 fingerprints. You can get to your piece at night if need be and you can mow the law while your son is watching TV without fear. $200.00 well spent!

    In a few years, buy him a .22 rifle and start plinking together. Keep him away from hand guns until you are absolutely confident he will never touch a weapon without you or your wife present. Kids like to show off and often show their daddy's guns to their friends. Even if they are competent to handle them safely, accidents happen and they are advertising your valuables to others that might choose to steal them.

    That's where I stand. Hope it helps...Semper Fi again!

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    I've been looking into the fingerprint safe to replace my current system.

    My son is 3 and knows that he is not supposed to touch my guns even though all of them are locked up some way or another. Directly under my side of the bed, in it's case with a simple 3# lock on it, is my pistol with a loaded magazine right next to it. I mentally and physically prepare for different scenarios of someone breaking and entering and practice them with an unloaded gun when my son is not home.

    If you're concerned about someone breaking in when you're sleeping, practice accessing your gun in the dark. I love my XDm 9mm because I can feel the striker and the chamber indicator. Know your gun, know your surroundings, think like a criminal and prepare yourself, your wife and your child the best that you can. Have a plan, don't rely on just a gun nearby.

    Same advice for teaching your child to shoot a .22 can also work for women, that's how I got started. ;) Now I shoot anything and everything on the range. I'll be out on my first dove hunt soon. Start small, let her grow into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rifleshooter474 View Post
    I have no idea how smart your son is but if he is old enough to understand anything, you should be able to make him understand to leave your firearms alone. ;-)
    That is simply not enough. He must ensure there is no possibility that the child can gain access.
    GOD, GUNS and GUITARS

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    ...actually, our home was broken into last year. Fortunately, we were not home at the time. It's had a huge psychological effect on the entire family. And there is also a drastic increase in the number of home invasions in my area lately. So right now my home defense gun is my pump shotgun that I keep a cable lock on. I just fear that when seconds count, I won't have time to get the lock off, and load it before it's too late.

    ...also, when I mentioned that I was thinking about starting to carry concealed; the license is suppose to be back tomorrow. Then it's just a matter of a few purchases before I'm part of the club.

    The biometeric safe sounds like the way to go, has anyone ever had trouble getting one open in a hurry?

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    I carry on my side from get dressed to get into bed and our baby of the six turns 34 this December. So I am no longer in your shoes. But, I spent time with a six year old in out home six years ago. My solution was to lock my gun in a GunVault 1000. With practice retrieving a handgun from your bed with one of these takes not over five seconds and that would be from a dead sleep.
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    My granson lives with my wife and I, I've always had all type of firearms in my house. I worked with both my boys and now my grandson(which is 10 now) about gun saftey. I had both my sons years ago go take a hunter saftey course when I felt they were old enough to understand what the course was about. My grandson, I started teaching him gun saftey when he was 5 yrs old but I keep all my guns in a gun safe. He took the hunter saftey course when his was 7. I had him practice gun saftey even when he played with his toy guns. His been deer hunting with me since he was 5 but I didn't allow him to shoot until he took the hunter saftey course because even though it's fun you have to be extra safe while handleing firearms at all times. I keep my CZ 75B 9mm with a full clip but not one in the chamber in a night stand beside my bed within reach but if he has any friends over I lock it in the safe just to be on the safe side. He knows his not allowed in my room while friends are over but all guns are locked up. IMHO work with your wife and boy about gun saftey every chance you get daily and have your wife take a hand gun course, when you feel comfortable with your son I would have him take the hunter satey course. As your son gets older you can have him take a hand gun course. Just my opinion! Good luck and be safe.
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    First of all get your wife to a qualified instructor like Front sight, then teach your son about guns and safety. When I met my wife thirty eight years ago she had a little boy who was two, first thing I did was to teach him about guns and not to touch mine. A year or so later she bore me another son, did the same with him. I never had any problems with either of those two boys and they both grew up around guns.

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