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    Philadelphia Student Shoots Armed Robber

    Philadelphia Student Carrying Legal Firearm Shoots It Out With Armed Robber | TheBlaze.com

    A CCW permit holder saved his life by being armed? I thought the media said this was suppose to be impossible.

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    Outstanding! First, that a 21-year old college student had the correct frame of mind to be legally armed at all times possible, and second that he showed conviction and courage in the face of teenaged killers. My hat is off to him, and my prayers for his speedy recovery.

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    The important lesson that EVERYONE needs to take from this:

    This IS a good ending, since the defender survived the encounter. In fact, this is the most likely ending you can expect when defending yourself against an armed attack on the street. Pistols are comparatively underpowered firearms. One shot will rarely stop an attacker. If both the assailant and defender are armed with pistols, good chance the encounter will end just like this, with both participants hospitalized.

    The defender's life will never be the same. He will likely have a long and painful physical recovery.

    His emotional recovery will likely be even longer and more painful in many ways, despite intellectually knowing he was in the right. In times when he's feeling vulnerable, the moment where he shot a 15 year old kid will play over and over in his head. He will doubt himself. "Did I need to shoot him? What if I'd just given him the money? What if I hadn't gone outside for a smoke? What if it had been my friend and not me who got shot? What if he had died?" On and on.

    While the defender rightly is not facing any criminal charges, he may still have to defend against a civil suit, which can be a cumbersome financial burden even if you win the case.

    What makes this a GOOD ending? Only that it beats the worst alternative, which is being robbed and killed with no viable means of defending oneself.

    I've said this in other posts...but all the "keyboard killers," "mall ninjas," "sheep dogs," and other "tough guy" types need to take note. This is serious business, for serious-minded people. The stakes are incredibly high. And even if you do everything right, you can still have a really crappy outcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip Gain View Post
    I've said this in other posts...but all the "keyboard killers," "mall ninjas," "sheep dogs," and other "tough guy" types need to take note. This is serious business, for serious-minded people. The stakes are incredibly high. And even if you do everything right, you can still have a really crappy outcome.
    So noted and thread tagged.

  6. Of course, I'm sure some will say that if he hadn't been armed, he wouldn't have been so gung-ho to refuse the criminals. Therefore, the right answer would have been to meekly give in.

    This kid did great. I hope a pro-gun organization starts a legal defense fund for this kid if the criminal does sue him.

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    I applaud this guy for his bravery and the way he had handled the situation. There may (or may not) be repurcussions later but let's face it -- he did the right thing. One big HOORAY! for gun owners! Just one question -- does Temple University allows guns on campus? If they do, good on them too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillip Gain View Post
    The important lesson that EVERYONE needs to take from this:

    This IS a good ending, since the defender survived the encounter. In fact, this is the most likely ending you can expect when defending yourself against an armed attack on the street. Pistols are comparatively underpowered firearms. One shot will rarely stop an attacker. If both the assailant and defender are armed with pistols, good chance the encounter will end just like this, with both participants hospitalized.

    The defender's life will never be the same. He will likely have a long and painful physical recovery.

    His emotional recovery will likely be even longer and more painful in many ways, despite intellectually knowing he was in the right. In times when he's feeling vulnerable, the moment where he shot a 15 year old kid will play over and over in his head. He will doubt himself. "Did I need to shoot him? What if I'd just given him the money? What if I hadn't gone outside for a smoke? What if it had been my friend and not me who got shot? What if he had died?" On and on.

    While the defender rightly is not facing any criminal charges, he may still have to defend against a civil suit, which can be a cumbersome financial burden even if you win the case.

    What makes this a GOOD ending? Only that it beats the worst alternative, which is being robbed and killed with no viable means of defending oneself.

    I've said this in other posts...but all the "keyboard killers," "mall ninjas," "sheep dogs," and other "tough guy" types need to take note. This is serious business, for serious-minded people. The stakes are incredibly high. And even if you do everything right, you can still have a really crappy outcome.
    You made some very good points but I don't think there is no grounds for any civil suit in this case. The victim shot the kid while trying to rob him. I hope the kid come out of this okay. Emotionally as well as physically.
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    Glad hes alive to talk about it and speedy recovery

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    John- You are in Michigan and think that there is no grounds for a law suit? When I lived in MI it was one of the most suit happy places I could find. A person can be sued for just about anything!
    Even though the Castle Doctrine is now signed in Penn, it doesn't mean he can be sued. It may mean the BG will lose immediately, but the costs associated with the defense could be incredible. The expected cost alone could cause an insurance carrier to settle without defense. Thereby, earning the attorney a fee and his client a settlement. - aka Jackpot

    Food for thought...

    By the way... I am very glad this young man made it. I too applaud his foresight and courage and pray that he recovers quickly.

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