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  1. #71
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    Ceremonial Etiquete and Knockdown Power

    Now that Confucius has been brought into the debate we must review our history of philosophy to determine a most true solution to this riddle concerning the 9...

    We harken back to the meeting with Lao Tsu, contemporary & author of The Right Use of The Way of Life...

    Confucius in his heyday went to consult Lao Tsu on a point involving correct ceremonial etiquette which in Chinese philosophy ties in to the pursuit of illumination by connecting the individuated soul to the universe.

    Lao Tsu did not believe in ceremonial etiquette. He was a radical teacher in many ways for the times. Confucius came away from the meeting very impressed...When he arrived back to his disciples, he told them, "Today I have met a dragon!"

    Therefore, how do we asses the 9?

    Consider when Jesus met the centurion who asked him to heal his servant who was ill. The respect and quality of devotion that this Roman military leader displayed led Christ to admit that he had not found such great faith amongst the Hebrews.

    Now as we work to apply wisdom to choice of caliber for self-defense we must contemplate many sources, events & spiritual powers.

    The National Rifle Association gives us several firm guidelines: Shoot the largest caliber you can control. Use defensive accuracy that spans the range of a standard piece of typing paper - shooting for center-mass, rather than trying to aim for a pin-point, and use multiple shots preferably in double tap rhythm until the threat is stopped.

    True defensive wisdom brings us to the balance of speed, accuracy & stopping power. It is important not to depend on one well-placed shot, but to shoot controlled pairs with a caliber that you can perform nice follow-up with until the assailant is on the ground. When we train this way, 9mm attains to its greatness as a self-defense cartridge. The powerful, angry, muscled-up from prison weightlifting, on methamphetamine criminal attacker may require 5 or so 9mm rounds where one or two 45 acp's will suffice. This is fine, just understand the balance of speed, accuracy & stopping power.
    Guy Masterson
    Strategy Resource International, LLC
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    Very interesting way to get to your point. I like Front Sights motto "Any gun will do if you will do".

  4. #73
    I used to have a strong prejudice against the 9mm until I had surgery on my wrist removing a ganglian cyst. I used to always shoot the .40 Glock 23. After I healed I sold my Glock and picked up a 9mm Ruger Sr9c and haven't looked back. Some say they would prefer a .45 and/or a 9mm and leave out the .40, I happen to agree. The .40 is a great round, but it has caused alot of damage to me.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by jeffelliott View Post
    I used to have a strong prejudice against the 9mm until I had surgery on my wrist removing a ganglian cyst. I used to always shoot the .40 Glock 23. After I healed I sold my Glock and picked up a 9mm Ruger Sr9c and haven't looked back. Some say they would prefer a .45 and/or a 9mm and leave out the .40, I happen to agree. The .40 is a great round, but it has caused alot of damage to me.
    Glad you found a replacement. To me, my PX4 .40's recoil is about the same as my 92's.

  6. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by jeffelliott View Post
    I used to have a strong prejudice against the 9mm until I had surgery on my wrist removing a ganglian cyst. I used to always shoot the .40 Glock 23. After I healed I sold my Glock and picked up a 9mm Ruger Sr9c and haven't looked back. Some say they would prefer a .45 and/or a 9mm and leave out the .40, I happen to agree. The .40 is a great round, but it has caused alot of damage to me.
    What exactly is a ganglian cyst and did you get it from shooting?

  7. #76
    It is a cyst that grows quickly in the hand and wrist area. I works my hands, but the glock angle contributed to it. The cyst grew on my pulse point on my right wrist, covering the artery. You couldn't take my pulse there. I had to go without carrying or shooting for a year and a half. I'm back in the game now, just a little more wiser about my caliber selection. Best advice, if there is a place were one can go and try out a handgun, then go. It is better to try out the gun by fit and shot, than just fit. And don't always trust what the salesperson says, for they usually are working on commission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffelliott View Post
    I used to have a strong prejudice against the 9mm until I had surgery on my wrist removing a ganglian cyst. I used to always shoot the .40 Glock 23. After I healed I sold my Glock and picked up a 9mm Ruger Sr9c and haven't looked back. Some say they would prefer a .45 and/or a 9mm and leave out the .40, I happen to agree. The .40 is a great round, but it has caused alot of damage to me.
    What is it about the .40 that caused you so much trouble? I've never shot one so don't know too much about them.

  9. It snaps harder than a 9mm when fired

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    It actually has a harder snap than a .45acp. but like I said try out what best suits you. Not the advise nor word of others. The .40sw hasn't been around for a long time. It happens to be a chopped down 10mm round, which the 10 had a tendency to crack gun frames. .40=10mm according to my calipers. S&W developed .40 in the late 80s early 90s they took the 10mm round and shortened it. S&W developed the .40 with nothing to load it into. Glock took the .40, and the rest was history. The .40 is the most widely used caliber in U.S law enforcement, but it has bad snap.

    .40sw=10mm=.41magnum

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffelliott View Post
    It actually has a harder snap than a .45acp. but like I said try out what best suits you. Not the advise nor word of others. The .40sw hasn't been around for a long time. It happens to be a chopped down 10mm round, which the 10 had a tendency to crack gun frames. .40=10mm according to my calipers. S&W developed .40 in the late 80s early 90s they took the 10mm round and shortened it. S&W developed the .40 with nothing to load it into. Glock took the .40, and the rest was history. The .40 is the most widely used caliber in U.S law enforcement, but it has bad snap.

    .40sw=10mm=.41magnum
    Let me add to that. Glock actually had not one but TWO pistols designed for the 40S&W before S&W had a pistol designed for this caliber. S&W had to copy-cat Glock with the lower kwality Sigma.

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