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    Quote Originally Posted by Cotillion:228679
    Flame me all you want but I strongly believe everyone should have to do a minimum 4 hour class, preferably 8+ though. If you can't find the slide release you don't need to own a gun
    Yeah! And we need to require classes for knife purchases! What about power tools? And roller skates? And walnuts! Lighters and matches?

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    Same thing happened last year at one of the gun shops I go to. Guy was buying a 12G shotgun for HD and just for fun, he didn't know how to release the slide(or for that matter how to work the gun in gen.) I showed him the basics of how to work it and told him I was in no way an expert and if he wanted more information to sign up for classes.

    With the way things are now a days gun stores are seeing more and more first time owners(large amount of them use to be antis.)

    I think if we know how to work the said firearm they want to buy we should show them the basics(including the basic rules of firearm safety.) It's not our job to tech(unless you have an instructor cert) them how to use the firearm like a DELTA FORCE operator, but I also think we shouldn't look down at them for wanting to buy a firearm.

    THEY MAY TAKE OUR LIVES BUT THEY'LL NEVER TAKE OUR FREEDOM!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cotillion View Post
    Wow you're right. Thinking someone who obviously can't safety handle a hand cannon shouldn't own one without proper training is just like socialism! I need to keep my eliteism in check, sorry bros and gals. I wonder when they next thread with a link of some idiot hurting himself with a firearm can be posted so the exact same people here can go post the exact same thing I just said and you argued
    Until I joined the Navy, I'd never held a 1911. Does that mean I should never have been given the chance? If the guy's a citizen, and he can otherwise legally possess the weapon, I say more power too him. Sure, I (and everyone else here) hope he gets some training, but training isn't a prerequisite to keep and bear arms, at least it's not specified in the copy of the Constitution that I'm looking at right now.

    Look at it this way - at least he bought a manly pistol, and not some limp-wrist 9mm... :)

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    "Iam2taz", "s&wm&p40" and "jsimmons" have some great points up there!
    1)"When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty." -Thomas Jefferson.
    2)"Imagine how gun control might be stomped if GOA or SAF had the (compromising) NRA's 4 million members!" -Me. http://jpfo.org/filegen-n-z/nraletter.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cotillion View Post
    Flame me all you want but I strongly believe everyone should have to do a minimum 4 hour class, preferably 8+ though. If you can't find the slide release you don't need to own a gun
    I'd like to think Iam2taz, Jsimmons & S&wm&p40 and others have some good points about this, and I'll paraphrase the men cause I feel like backing them up here. The purchaser may have wanted to own a gun for the day the anti's are successful in stopping our ability to (legally) purchase them. OR, he wanted a good size gun to take with him to, here's the key part, to class to learn to manipulate it and shoot it. ...Maybe even then classes at Front Sight! Iam2taz and others are right, this guy has a right to own it even if he just greases it up and puts it in a safe for crying out loud.

    As a side note, today, the 10th anniversary of the attacks against our freedom should bring to us a gladness that this man and any other person in this country SHOULD buy a gun and celebrate the fact they CAN buy a gun.
    1)"When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty." -Thomas Jefferson.
    2)"Imagine how gun control might be stomped if GOA or SAF had the (compromising) NRA's 4 million members!" -Me. http://jpfo.org/filegen-n-z/nraletter.htm

  7. It's amazing how twisted things can get over the internet without immediately being able to retort with words. I guess you woulda just had to have been there. This whole elitist thing makes me lol, I'm anti everything. I can't stand the hoops we need to jump through and state regulation is retarded. I simply looked over at a grown man twisting a pistol around and pictured a 13 year old playing with his dads gun and he ends up blowing his face off. I'm glad he bought a gun, he looks like the type of guy who would shoot a crack head for coming on his lawn but in the interest of self preservation he should have forked out the 35 bucks and went to the same class I did

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cotillion View Post
    in the interest of self preservation he should have forked out the 35 bucks and went to the same class I did
    ... and perhaps he will at some point. The only real issue I see is if he does not get the instruction he will surely need to handle his new purchase safely. Maybe he has a friend of family member he will go to.

    Sure, many would benefit some sort of minimal safety instruction before purchasing a firearm... but the reality is that instruction of that sort would be so dependent on what they wanted to purchase you'd really only be able to make it happen as part of the sales process or after the fact via youtube videos. Maybe more people just need to be encouraged in that direction?

    Kudos to him on the .45 in any case ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cotillion View Post
    It's amazing how twisted things can get over the internet without immediately being able to retort with words. I guess you woulda just had to have been there. This whole elitist thing makes me lol, I'm anti everything. I can't stand the hoops we need to jump through and state regulation is retarded. I simply looked over at a grown man twisting a pistol around and pictured a 13 year old playing with his dads gun and he ends up blowing his face off. I'm glad he bought a gun, he looks like the type of guy who would shoot a crack head for coming on his lawn but in the interest of self preservation he should have forked out the 35 bucks and went to the same class I did
    That's just it, what works for you may not work for everyone.

    THEY MAY TAKE OUR LIVES BUT THEY'LL NEVER TAKE OUR FREEDOM!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by s0nspark View Post
    ... and perhaps he will at some point. The only real issue I see is if he does not get the instruction he will surely need to handle his new purchase safely. Maybe he has a friend of family member he will go to.

    Sure, many would benefit some sort of minimal safety instruction before purchasing a firearm... but the reality is that instruction of that sort would be so dependent on what they wanted to purchase you'd really only be able to make it happen as part of the sales process or after the fact via youtube videos. Maybe more people just need to be encouraged in that direction?

    Kudos to him on the .45 in any case ;-)
    Say what you want about youtube, but there is a lot of firearm experts on it. At the same time it has just as many if not more arm-chair commandos who think they are members of seal team 6 just because they own a glock. If you can find the right channels on youtube you can learn a **** load of information from (proofen experts) with years of knowledge they are giving away for FREE.

    THEY MAY TAKE OUR LIVES BUT THEY'LL NEVER TAKE OUR FREEDOM!!!!!

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    There is one local gun store around here that has a checklist for every gun they sell. Some of the itmes on it are that they have to show the new owner how to load and operate (chamber a round, safety on/off etc) and generally be familiar with the gun. I like this and think all gun stores should do similar. Ironic thing is they usually have the best selection of guns around and cheapest prices. Just goes to show that good customer service works.

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