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    Shooting Organization Endorses Obama

    Obama has to be a supporter if these guys say so. Can anyone tell me who they really are?

    http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Hunter...s_he_0416.html

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    The group sets itself apart from the "more extreme" elements of the pro-gun lobby like the National Rifle Association and Gun Owners of America. Unlike them, AHSA favors some gun-control measures like background checks and required safety courses for concealed weapons permits. (The NRA has accused the group of being a front for the anti-gun lobby.)

    I would say that AHSA is the "more extreme" element. EXTREME LIBERAL".
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    I would say bye bye to them

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    yeah, and many of their board members

    sit in Handgun control' board as well. maybe we should start our own group. " gun owners against stupidity and other commie loving, hadji kissin' no-goodniks."

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    Okay boris, I'll join. Here's what NRA-ILA has to say about this endorsement and the AHSA. Pretty well sums it up:

    "Pro-Gun" Group Endorses Most Anti-Gun Candidate

    Friday, April 18, 2008

    As this unusual campaign season has unfolded, we’ve seen the candidates ratcheting up their politically expedient rhetoric in an attempt to distinguish themselves as the “candidate of choice” for every constituency, while testing the far reaches of credibility in the process. We’ve heard blatantly anti-gun politicians claim to be supportive of the Second Amendment. We’ve seen hypocrisy, and we’ve heard double-speak and insults to our intelligence.

    When it comes to campaign rhetoric on the Second Amendment, we’ve seen a change in the way many anti-gun politicians campaign. Rather than talk openly about their desire to ban guns, register gun owners, and regulate firearms sales, anti-gun politicians talk about their “support” for sportsmen. Rather than admit they oppose the individual right protected by the Second Amendment, they claim they “support firearm ownership for hunting.”

    This is all an effort to mislead and divide the gun owning community and to dilute gun owners’ political impact. To achieve their goals new organizations have been formed, with names designed to confuse gun owners and hide their real agenda. The American Hunters and Shooters Association (AHSA) is one of those groups.

    As we’ve reported in the past, AHSA was created to provide political cover for anti-gun politicians by allowing them to claim support from a “sportsmen’s” group. In truth, the anti-gun credentials of AHSA’s leadership is well documented. For instance, AHSA president Ray Schoenke has a long history of giving political donations to some of the nations most anti-gun politicians, including Al Gore, John Kerry, Barbara Boxer, Bill Clinton, Dianne Feinstein, and Ted Kennedy. In 2000, Schoenke donated $5,000 to Handgun Control, Inc. (now the Brady Campaign) and the Ray and Holly Schoenke Foundation also made donations to the Brady Campaign. AHSA Board member John Rosenthal remains the leader of Stop Handgun Violence, a Massachusetts anti-gun group. And one of the leading organizers of AHSA is Bob Ricker, who has served as a paid expert witness against gun manufacturers in a number of reckless lawsuits. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.

    In keeping with their “pro-gun” stance, this week, AHSA did the last thing one would expect of a pro-gun group—they endorsed Democratic hopeful Barack Obama for President!

    In a statement on the AHSA website titled “Obama: He ‘gets it,’” Schoenke announced the endorsement, saying that Senator Obama’s voting record has clearly demonstrated his commitment to the Second Amendment! Are you kidding? Obama’s hostility toward the Second Amendment is so well known and well documented that in the 2004 elections, NRA’s Political Victory Fund (NRA-PVF) issued Obama a well-deserved “F” grade. Obama is anti-gun. Period. And no amount of sugar coating or spin by AHSA will change that fact.

    The AHSA statement closes with the line, “Senator Obama will be a strong and authentic voice for America’s hunters and shooters and it is with great pleasure that we endorse his candidacy.” While typical of the rhetoric coming out of AHSA, that line is nothing less than ridiculous.

    AHSA would be more correctly called the “American Association for the Protection of Anti-Gun Politicians.” No gun owner or sportsman should take the group seriously or fall prey to its carefully crafted lies and deceptions, as clearly demonstrated by their endorsement of Barack Obama.

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    Thanks for the post mom. It figures that they would be a wolf in sheeps clothing.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    They only have 100 to 150 members. What an endorsement!
    USAF Retired, CATM, SC CWP, NH NR CWP, NRA Benefactor
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    Hey maybe I'll start a anti gun organization and say I'm for gun control. Then I can take all the Anti's/Libs money and donate it to the NRA or other REAL pro gun organization. Hmmmmmmm........
    "When Government fears the people, it's liberty. When people fear the Government, it's tyranny."
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    What a pathetic display.
    This group wants to have stricter gun laws, fine, that's thier right to choose (although a dumb choice.) But to insult our intelligence by trying to pull the wool over our eyes like that. Where is the honor, where is the integrity? I believe if you fight fair, God is on your side. The end does not justify the means. And we are not a bunch of dumb rednecks that can be persuaded by any group saying they're on our side, while supporting gun grabbing politicans.
    Just goes to show how desperate the anti's are. Fighting dirty, because they're losing the battle. :sly:
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]In order to rally people, governments need enemies. They want us to be afraid, to hate, so we will rally behind them. And if they don't have a real enemy, they'll invent one in order to mobilize us.

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    Golly are they called the "Shoot myself in the Foot" dot org?

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