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    D.C. to arm police with assault rifles

    D.C. to arm police with assault rifles

    By David C. Lipscomb
    May 8, 2008

    The Metropolitan Police Department has joined other major U.S. cities in arming patrol officers with assault rifles to protect them against criminals with high-powered weapons, weeks after being released from a federal program that monitors the use of excessive force.

    "We want to be as accurate as possible and have more stopping power," Assistant Chief Patrick Burke said yesterday.

    The department already has 500 semiautomatic AR-15 rifles, which were converted from fully automatic rifles, and has trained 340 officers to use them.

    Chief Burke said the weapons will go in service after the department decides how to rack them in patrol cars, but gave no specific start date.

    The Chicago Police Department is making similar plans and the City of Miami Police Department is already using such weapons.

    "We need to be equally equipped with the firearms that are being used against the police," said Monique Bond, a Chicago police spokeswoman. "If officers cannot protect themselves, they cannot protect residents."

    Last month, Chicago had one of the most violent crime waves in recent history 36 shootings in which nine people were killed and an AK-47 assault rifle was used to shoot up a plumbing-supply store.

    Miami police began giving patrol police assault rifles in September, about a week before a Miami-Dade County officer was killed by a suspect with a high-powered rifle.

    Miami Police Executive Assistant Delrish Moss said officials were reluctant to make such a decision but felt it was necessary.

    Concerns about D.C. officers using excessive force surfaced after the city lowered standards in police recruiting in 1989 and 1990.

    On April 7, the department qualified to end a seven-year, voluntary Justice Department oversight of incidents in which officers used their weapons or other forms of force in the line of duty.

    City officers fatally shot 12 people in 1998, and the department led the country in fatal shootings in the 1990s.

    However, the number of fatal police-involved shootings was five or fewer each year from 1999 to 2006, according to a report from the D.C. police department.

    Last year, eight people were fatally shot by city officers, compared with two in 2006.

    City officers fired 219 rounds last year, up from 64 in 2006. The department is now investigating the conduct of two officers who this month were exonerated by federal investigators in the fatal shooting of 14-year-old DeOnte Rawlings, whom they suspected in the theft of a mini-bike.

    Ronald Moten, co-founder of the youth-advocacy group Peaceoholics, acknowledged that criminals, including youths, are getting their hands on powerful weapons that "you cannot buy in the store" but said giving police bigger guns will not solve the problem.

    "If I was a police officer, I would want to be as equipped as the criminals," he said. "But I don't think it's the answer."

    Prince George's County and Montgomery County police representatives said they have seen more powerful weapons used in recent years and have given officers the option to carry assault rifles.

    City police did not have statistics yesterday on the types of weapons being used in crimes.

    The department's SWAT already has such weapons. A spokesman for the Baltimore Police Department said only SWAT officers have assault rifles because the department has seen mostly handguns used in crime.

    "It's a specialized weapon for specialized units," said Officer Troy Harris, a Baltimore police spokesman.

    D.C. Council member Jim Graham said he would "be inclined to support" the use of assault rifles because he sees no alternative in the war on guns.

    "When the criminals are armed better than the police, there's a problem," said Mr. Graham, Ward 1 Democrat, who last year dealt with hundreds of shootings between rival street gangs in his district. "What are we going to do?"

    POLICE SHOOTINGS

    A month after being freed from intensive federal monitoring of shooting incidents, D.C. patrol officers will be issued assault rifles to match the increasing firepower of violent criminals.

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    Discharges* Shot Killed

    1999 34 7 4

    2000 20 6 1

    2001 29 14 3

    2002 24 5 5

    2003 28 11 5

    2004 28 10 2

    2005 23 7 4

    2006 13 6 2

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    "If officers cannot protect themselves, they cannot protect residents."

    how about actually letting the people of D.C. protect themselves? how's that for an idea?
    You can have my freedom as soon as I'm done with it!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow View Post
    "If officers cannot protect themselves, they cannot protect residents."

    how about actually letting the people of D.C. protect themselves? how's that for an idea?
    There you go again Scarecrow, trying to through common sense into the mix.
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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    Something is amiss here???

    Aren't Washington, DC and Chicago both gun free utopia's??? Their police officers, like the police in England, shouldn't need weapons at all. OH, I guess the criminals aren't cooperating in either Utopia, or in England, that's hard to believe!!! (Snigger, Snigger!!)

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    Damn, starting to sound like Nazi Germany. Go figure, right in our trusty nation's capital.
    Take the guns away from citizens, and arm the police with AR's
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    So I guess in DC they do not even believe the police should be allowed to have an assault rifle. Are they afraid the evil gun will attack innocent people?

    This article just provided proof that the police cannot be everywhere to protect its citizens. Did you notice in 2006 police only fired 64 rounds? How many rounds were fired by criminals?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeavingMass View Post

    Ronald Moten, co-founder of the youth-advocacy group Peaceoholics, acknowledged that criminals, including youths, are getting their hands on powerful weapons that "you cannot buy in the store" but said giving police bigger guns will not solve the problem.

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    And this proves that the criminals will get guns no matter what. As I read this, he is saying that the criminals are armed with weapons that even us law-abiding folks can't buy (I don't necessarily "buy" that). So in what strange universe would disarming the good guys be better? Put the pipe down Ron, and back away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mushroom View Post
    Aren't Washington, DC and Chicago both gun free utopia's??? Their police officers, like the police in England, shouldn't need weapons at all. OH, I guess the criminals aren't cooperating in either Utopia, or in England, that's hard to believe!!! (Snigger, Snigger!!)
    I flew back from south carolina a couple weekends ago. had to stop in D.C AND chicago... the airline screwed up the flights as usual. had to spend the night in a hotel in D.C. man.. of all the cities to have layovers in..
    You can have my freedom as soon as I'm done with it!!!

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    Yep, that's pretty bad. And to make it even worse they believe if the legal citizen was armed there would be even more crime then there already is.

    It is amazing how democrats think...:06:

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    The stupid thing is, they won't admit that banning guns has made things worse. I feel bad for law-abiding citizens and Leo's alike in D.C.

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