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    The coat hook on restroom stall doors has actually two hooks, usually, a long upper one with a slight upward curve to it and a shorter extremely curved hook under it, but all made of one piece of metal. I hang my gun on the lower hook, of course. Since the weapon hangs butt down, there is no way the hook can bear on the trigger. Even if it did, I carry my Star with the hammer down, and thumb-cock it if needed as I draw. I have said this twice, and no one seems to understand it. The Star, like most .45 autos based on John Moses Browning's design is a single action, so pulling the trigger with the hammer down will do nothing at all. In addition, since the weapon hangs with the barrel almost straight up and down, the front part of the trigger guard rests on the hook, over an inch above the trigger. Even if I accidentally push up on it when I retrieve it, it will not fire. as it is, I repeat, a SINGLE ACTION AUTO. With it uncocked, it cannot fire, accidentally or otherwise. As I said, I tested many methods of what to do with it, and came to this after all the others proved to me to be unsatisfactory. I have had people try to enter the stall, and the weapon never even flopped on the door, and anyone trying to reach over the top (when did you ever see anyone do that?) will end up with a broken arm. Besides, I never saw anyone who could reach the weapon, even if they did suspect there was something hanging on the hook. Satisfied now? I have been handling firearms since I was 5 years old on the farm in Indiana. I am a former LEO, a member of my department's pistol team, a certified Range Master, Range Safety Officer and Basic Marksmanship Instructor, I reload my own ammo, and am an amateur gunssmith. I am now 62 years of age and have never had a mishap with a firearm. Believe me, if I supsected for a second that something was not safe, I would not do it, period.
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    I prefer a modified Isosceles stance. Start with feet shoulder width apart, body squared, knees slightly bent and pants just below knees. Draw and assume the "stacked" ready position (pistol against chest, barrel down). Bend knees until proper firing () position is achieved. Engage target.
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  4. What to do

    hwhite, all I can say is ROFLMAOTRDBCPIMP. I will have to remember that one. :D
    Last edited by wuzfuz; 09-11-2008 at 03:29 PM. Reason: Typos
    A man without a gun is a subject; a man with a gun is a citizen.
    I'll keep my freedom, my guns and my money. You can keep THE CHANGE.
    An armed society is a polite society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wuzfuz View Post
    The coat hook on restroom stall doors has actually two hooks, usually, a long upper one with a slight upward curve to it and a shorter extremely curved hook under it, but all made of one piece of metal. I hang my gun on the lower hook, of course. Since the weapon hangs butt down, there is no way the hook can bear on the trigger. Even if it did, I carry my Star with the hammer down, and thumb-cock it if needed as I draw. I have said this twice, and no one seems to understand it. The Star, like most .45 autos based on John Moses Browning's design is a single action, so pulling the trigger with the hammer down will do nothing at all. In addition, since the weapon hangs with the barrel almost straight up and down, the front part of the trigger guard rests on the hook, over an inch above the trigger. Even if I accidentally push up on it when I retrieve it, it will not fire. as it is, I repeat, a SINGLE ACTION AUTO. With it uncocked, it cannot fire, accidentally or otherwise. As I said, I tested many methods of what to do with it, and came to this after all the others proved to me to be unsatisfactory. I have had people try to enter the stall, and the weapon never even flopped on the door, and anyone trying to reach over the top (when did you ever see anyone do that?) will end up with a broken arm. Besides, I never saw anyone who could reach the weapon, even if they did suspect there was something hanging on the hook. Satisfied now? I have been handling firearms since I was 5 years old on the farm in Indiana. I am a former LEO, a member of my department's pistol team, a certified Range Master, Range Safety Officer and Basic Marksmanship Instructor, I reload my own ammo, and am an amateur gunssmith. I am now 62 years of age and have never had a mishap with a firearm. Believe me, if I supsected for a second that something was not safe, I would not do it, period.
    I don't care. I still don't think it's safe, that heavy gun hanging on the hook like that; how secure is the hook ? The fact is you don't know.

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    I'm going to back wuzfuz on this. I like the idea as long as the hook is sufficient enough to keep the firearm from being knocked off if the door should be shaken. It's accessible and like he said you have your eye on it at all times. You can't forget it. If you think that a loaded 45 is too heavy for the hook think again. I can pull myself up with a bathroom stall coat hook and I weigh a lot more than a 45. Heck My winter coat weighs more. If you think the hook is not secure enough then just pull on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Hat View Post
    I'm going to back wuzfuz on this. I like the idea as long as the hook is sufficient enough to keep the firearm from being knocked off if the door should be shaken. It's accessible and like he said you have your eye on it at all times. You can't forget it. If you think that a loaded 45 is too heavy for the hook think again. I can pull myself up with a bathroom stall coat hook and I weigh a lot more than a 45. Heck My winter coat weighs more. If you think the hook is not secure enough then just pull on it.
    Not you too, Red Hat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tattedupboy View Post
    Not you too, Red Hat!
    Yep, me too!
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    Tated I think we stand alone with this one.

    If you guys think its safe and prefer to do it, by all means go ahead. I personaly wouldn't do that. I don't feel its safe in my mind. I was in the stall this morning looking at the hook and could never imagine myself hanging my firearm from it. Nothing wrong with you guys doing it, but for me, I dont think its safe and would never do it. Sorry.
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    Whew! I was beginning to think that everyone was starting to turn against me. The safest thing to do with your gun is to either keep it in your holster and in the seat of the pants while keeping them high enough to keep it concealed, or to put it on top of the toilet paper dispenser. As for people who worry they'll forget their guns if they put them there, if you are actually capable of forgetting your gun, you have no business carrying!

  11. What do you do

    I have to agree with tatted on this one point. If they can forget they brought a loaded weapon into the stall and walk out without it, they got no business carrying even a cap gun. I stated my qualifications, and even though tatted is a Hoosier, I still say I have not found a weak hook in a restroom stall yet, and I have been doing this for over 14 years. I have enough sense to check the strength of the hook, if there is one. If there isn't, it goes in the crotch area of my trousers at the knees, which concerns me a bit. I have had my piece slide down one leg of my trousers, and it is really fun to wrestle with a compact .45 in a stall.
    A man without a gun is a subject; a man with a gun is a citizen.
    I'll keep my freedom, my guns and my money. You can keep THE CHANGE.
    An armed society is a polite society.

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