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    Unhappy Mad gunman kills three swimmers

    This guy sounds totally insane

    Nine young adults had gathered near a railroad bridge on the Menominee River when the gunman came out of the woods and opened fire about 5:30 p.m. Thursday, according to Sheriff Jim Kanikula.

    Authorities have not determined a motive. The sheriff said there was no communication between the gunman and his victims.
    Was this guy just roaming around looking for someone to shoot? This is a good reason to carry everywhere.

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    Last couple days prove you are not safe swimming, on a bus, or anywhere. Don't leave home with out it.
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    Very Sad

    Very sad. What makes people do things like this? Is it not safe to swim in america anymore? May they rest in peace.

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    Exclamation I already know what the PC answer will be

    Make more laws. Demonize guns, hunting knives and anything else not made of nerf or playdough.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by toreskha View Post
    This guy sounds totally insane


    Was this guy just roaming around looking for someone to shoot? This is a good reason to carry everywhere.
    Unfortunately, even if you are carrying and kook runs out of the woods firing directly at you. you;re probably dead before your hand touches the grip. Whatever happened to the good old punch in the nose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by toreskha View Post
    This guy sounds totally insane


    Was this guy just roaming around looking for someone to shoot? This is a good reason to carry everywhere.
    This is indeed an unfortunate situation, however, I'm not sure that the swimmers could have done anything to prevent this. If they were actually in the water, they were practically sitting ducks. Obviously they were not anticipating something like this happening, but neither would any of us, especially in the water. How many of you carry while you're in the water? I don't go to the beach very much for that very reason, but when I do, I confess that I just take a chance and do not go armed while in the water. Not saying that hearing this story is going to keep me from doing so in the future, but stories like this are exactly why I don't do it very often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tattedupboy View Post
    This is indeed an unfortunate situation, however, I'm not sure that the swimmers could have done anything to prevent this. If they were actually in the water, they were practically sitting ducks. Obviously they were not anticipating something like this happening, but neither would any of us, especially in the water. How many of you carry while you're in the water? I don't go to the beach very much for that very reason, but when I do, I confess that I just take a chance and do not go armed while in the water. Not saying that hearing this story is going to keep me from doing so in the future, but stories like this are exactly why I don't do it very often.
    I'd have to confess I've never gone into the water armed either. I do often take a shower with a gun within easy reach though...usually I just put it in a waterproof bag.

    If swimming, it might be worthwhile to get some sort of thin plastic bag to put around the gun before it goes into the holster. Maybe a top-snap could go over it to keep it from floating out. It could probably be hidden effectively with the right IWB.

    The thing about being in water is that it actually presents a unique advantage. Based on this nonscientific experiment, you may easily be able to use water as natural cover.

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    Carry while in the water? Seriously guys, you have to relax somewhere and just except the fact that you're not able to be armed every where. I even think the water proof bag next to the shower is a bit extreme. The counter is close enough and a few locked doors should be fine warning.

    Maybe I'm just not paranoid enough but, sometimes the Ozzies call us Americans lunatics about our guns and (NOT pointing at ANYONE), some of us really are.

    I can see valid points to having your side arm near at all times but, I like to live my life too. I swear I'm NOT calling anyone a kook but, be careful you don't turn into one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis View Post
    Carry while in the water? Seriously guys, you have to relax somewhere and just except the fact that you're not able to be armed every where. I even think the water proof bag next to the shower is a bit extreme. The counter is close enough and a few locked doors should be fine warning.

    Maybe I'm just not paranoid enough but, sometimes the Ozzies call us Americans lunatics about our guns and (NOT pointing at ANYONE), some of us really are.

    I can see valid points to having your side arm near at all times but, I like to live my life too. I swear I'm NOT calling anyone a kook but, be careful you don't turn into one.

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    I don't think anyone was advocating swimming with your gun on. I sure wasn't. I do think the point that can be made from this incident though is that you can not really categorize any place as a "safe place". I have seen some posters state on other threads that they do not always carry every time but only when they feel the need. How many times after an incident have we read or heard the remarks "I never thought that would happen here" or "I can't believe he did something like this, he seemed like such a nice guy". The fact is unless you are clairvoyant you can not predict when you will need to defend yourself or someone else. Like Murphy's Law says "If anything can go wrong it will". I would rather carry 10,000 times and never need to use my gun than have the one time I leave it home be the time I need it. My family and my own life means to much to me. If that is paranoid then every time I buckle my seat belt I am paranoid because I have yet to be in a bad wreck or each of us that carries health, home owners or life insurance are paranoid. ( Do you carry insurance just the times you need it or all the time?) Just my 2 cents worth.
    Last edited by HK4U; 08-04-2008 at 09:53 AM. Reason: add
    By faith Noah,being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear,prepared an ark to the saving of his house;by the which he condemned the world,and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith Heb.11:7

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