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    Koolbota: The references you gave were interesting and quite realistic. I'm not sure if you are trying to say that this was all fake at Boston or maybe trying to say there was a conspiracy but I do disagree with some of the comments made by the "EMTs" in the narrative. I had the unfortunate experience of seeing men killed and wounded and not all wounds were as described. One man I saw in Vietnam who had stepped on a mine had his right leg blown off from the knee down. The stump was severely burned and cauterized by the blast consequently, very little blood. He had other wounds which did bleed profusely but not like the comments by the EMTs. Another man, a medic, lost both legs to a Claymore mine. He immediately applied a tourniquet to the stump of one leg while others with him applied a tourniquet to the other leg. Fortunately, the blood flow was stopped before he could bleed to death. He was fortunate to have lived through that action but it was not as bloody as one would expect. All wounds are different and some of the most extensive I ever saw did not bleed as much as some much lighter wounds. One of the pictures in one of your references of a runner being carried after the Boston blast seemed different than the live action picture I saw of the same man being carried but I do not seriously believe that this was all staged. It has been proved that the government will do some low things but I can't accept that everything that happens is a conspiracy by the government. A goodly percentage maybe but not all. The administration is under a very black cloud now concerning gun running to Mexico, Benghazi and a myriad of other things that could bring the government down so it would not be unthinkable that something could happen to get the hounds off their backs! In this day and time, I would not put anything against anyone!

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    I don't believe that even the Obama Administration would do such a terrible thing. But they encourage the crazy conspiracy theories by acting in a conspiratorial manner. They lie on a regular basis. They're secretive about almost everything; and they aren't even good liars since they keep changing their stories. This is the least open administration that I've seen in my lifetime. Only a gullible idiot can't see the dishonesty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgrunt View Post
    Koolbota: The references you gave were interesting and quite realistic. I'm not sure if you are trying to say that this was all fake at Boston or maybe trying to say there was a conspiracy but I do disagree with some of the comments made by the "EMTs" in the narrative. I had the unfortunate experience of seeing men killed and wounded and not all wounds were as described. One man I saw in Vietnam who had stepped on a mine had his right leg blown off from the knee down. The stump was severely burned and cauterized by the blast consequently, very little blood. He had other wounds which did bleed profusely but not like the comments by the EMTs. Another man, a medic, lost both legs to a Claymore mine. He immediately applied a tourniquet to the stump of one leg while others with him applied a tourniquet to the other leg. Fortunately, the blood flow was stopped before he could bleed to death. He was fortunate to have lived through that action but it was not as bloody as one would expect. All wounds are different and some of the most extensive I ever saw did not bleed as much as some much lighter wounds. One of the pictures in one of your references of a runner being carried after the Boston blast seemed different than the live action picture I saw of the same man being carried but I do not seriously believe that this was all staged. It has been proved that the government will do some low things but I can't accept that everything that happens is a conspiracy by the government. A goodly percentage maybe but not all. The administration is under a very black cloud now concerning gun running to Mexico, Benghazi and a myriad of other things that could bring the government down so it would not be unthinkable that something could happen to get the hounds off their backs! In this day and time, I would not put anything against anyone!

    Believe nothing, is the point.

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    Islamic Society Of North America (ISNA) & Brady Campaign Join To Oppose The Second Amendment

    http://dancingczars.wordpress.com/20...ond-amendment/


    Gun control is exactly what Muslim Brotherhood groups and jihadist organizations like ISNA (Islamic Society of North America) need in order to achieve their conquest over the United States and the Constitution.

    ISNA was named an unindicted co-conspirator and Muslim Brotherhood proxy in the largest terrorist funding trial in our nation’s history, the Holy Land Foundation trial. According to an internal captured document their state goal is to “eliminate and destroy Western civilization and sabotage its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers, so that it is eliminated, and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.” … work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within …



    There are a lot of dots to connect.

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    Was Boston Bombers ‘Uncle Ruslan’ with the CIA?(A: YES proof)
    The uncle of the two men who set off bombs at the Boston Marathon, who struck the only grace note in an otherwise horrific week, worked as a “consultant” for the Agency for International Development (USAID) a U.S. Government Agency often used for cover by agents of the CIA, in the former Soviet Republic of Kazakhstan during the “Wild West” days of the early 1990’s, when anything that wasn’t nailed down in that country was up for grabs.


    http://www.madcowprod.com/2013/04/22...-with-the-cia/

    The uncle of the two men who set off bombs at the Boston Marathon, who struck the only grace note in an otherwise horrific week, worked as a “consultant” for the Agency for International Development (USAID) a U.S. Government Agency often used for cover by agents of the CIA, in the former Soviet Republic of Kazakhstan during the “Wild West” days of the early 1990’s, when anything that wasn’t nailed down in that country was up for grabs.

    “Uncle Ruslan” Tsarni of Montgomery Village Md., whose name was the top trending topic worldwide on Twitter last Friday for his plain-spoken condemnation of his two nephews, has had a checkered business career, that began well before he graduated (as Ruslan Z Tsarnaev) from Duke Law School in 1998.

    Tsarni, a well-connected oil executive, is currently involved in an international criminal investigation into a Kazakh billionaire banker-turned-fugitive alleged to have absconded with $6 billion from Kazakhstan’s BTA Bank.

    The story begins with The London Sunday Times on May 8, 2011, which reported the sale of the personal home of England’s Prince Andrew to billionaire Kazakh Oligarch Timur Kulibayev, who “controls that country’s oil industry and happens to be married to the daughter of its autocratic President Nursultan Nazarbayev.”

    What does that have to do with "Uncle Ruslan?" Let's take a look.

    "Can't tell your Oligarchs without a scorecard"

    Headlined "Prince's home in 'laundered cash' inquiry," the story raised several red flags.

    One was that the President-for-Life’s son-in-law had paid $5 million over the asking price to purchase Prince Andrew’s home, which raised eyebrows.

    Red flags and eyebrows were raised still further, in these times of global near-depression, at the conspicuous oligarchic consumption (read: bad taste) exhibited when the Kazakh President-for-Life’s daughter-for-life Goga Ashkenazi celebrated her 30th birthday with a lavish party before the scandal hit.

    Goga, who made her appearance in a Swarovski crystal-encrusted, backless lace dress, attended by Prince-for-Life Andrew, was entertained by fire-eaters, peacock-feathered stilt-walkers, and a girl swinging on a trapeze pouring vodka into ice sculptures shaped like naked male and female torsos.

    There was even a woman suspended in a bird cage (true) who was there to direct guests to strategically-placed vomitoriums (alas, not true) strewn about the mansion grounds.

    Enter "Uncle Ruslan"

    But the biggest red flag, the one pertinent to murder in Boston, was Oligarch Kukibayev's use of money laundered through a network of offshore companies to attempt to hide his purchase of Prince Andrew's crib, which emerged during a legal battle between another billionaire Kazakh oligarch, Mukhtar Ablyazov, and BTA Bank, from which Kazakhstan claims Ablyazov embezzled a very cool $6 billion dollars.

    And this is where “Uncle Ruslan” Tsarni comes in.

    The purchase of the Prince's estate was put together, according to prosecutors in Italy and Switzerland, by a group of oil executives who comprise “a network of personal and business relationships” allegedly used for “international corruption," reported The London Telegraph.

    Tsarni, called “a US lawyer who has had dealings in Kazakh business affairs,” by the Sunday Times, clearly appears to be a member of that network.

    The Sunday Times reported, “A statement by Ruslan Zaindi Tsarni was given in the High Court in December, claiming that Kulibayev bought Sunninghill and properties in Mayfair with $96 million derived from a complex series of deals intended to disguise money laundering.”

    “Tsarni alleged that the money came from the takeover of a western company, which had been used as a front to obtain oil contracts from the Kazakh state.”

    A Big Big Sky's the Limit

    The “western company” used to launder the money which the Sunday Times referred to is Big Sky Energy Corporation, where Ruslan Tsarni was a top executive.

    Big Sky, which used to be known as China Energy Ventures Corp, is a now-bankrupt US oil company run by S.A. (Al) Sehsuvaroglu, a long-time executive of Halliburton, which had oil leases in Kakakhstan’s Caspian Basin.

    Tsarni was Big Sky’s Corporate Secretary and Vice President for Business Development. He joined Big Sky in 2005.

    A press release announcing his appointment stated:

    “Mr. Ruslan Tsarni, a U.S. citizen, has over 10 years of professional experience in oil and gas legislation and corporate law. Previously, Mr. Tsarni served as Corporate Counsel of Nelson Resources Limited Group as well as Managing Director of several of its operating subsidiaries.

    “From 1999 to 2001, Mr. Tsarni worked as Head of Legal Affairs of Golden Eagle Partners LLC.

    Big Sky was on somebody's watch list

    “From 1994 to 1996, Mr. Tsarni served as a consultant contracted by USAID for projects aimed to develop securities markets in Central Asia, where he trained corporate governance and corporate finance principals in state and private companies.”

    According to a source who worked for many years as a journalist at Platts Oilgram News, a respected oil industry trade publication, good corporate governance was not a Big Sky priority.

    “Nelson, Big Sky, Ablyazov, Kulibayev and the rest were all on my watch list for intelligence connections and pay-offs of various kinds at Platts,” stated the source, who requested anonymity.

    The news corroborates other reports beginning to emerge about the family and its abundant connections.

    A "connected" family?

    Before the Tsarnaev family moved to the United States a decade ago, they lived in the northern Kyrgyz town of Tokmok, near the border with Kazakhstan, which is home of the country's largest ethnic Chechen community.

    The day after the massive manhunt in the Boston area that led to the death of Tamerlan and the capture of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, Radio Free Europe and Kyrgyz Service correspondent Timur Toktonaliev traveled to Tokmok.

    From there, he reported that the extended Tsarnaev family is well-known there, even beyond their local community.

    “It is not known if there was anything more than a personal connection,” the story reported, “but organized crime boss Aziz Batukaev, who is also an ethnic Chechen, lived next door to the Tsarnaevs. Batukaev grew up and lived in Tokmok, but is now in Chechnya.

    Halliburton executives, suspected CIA assets, Chechnyan crime bosses, oligarchs stealing billions from banks and laundering money with seeming impunity, fire-eaters, peacock-feathered stilt-walkers, and a girl swinging on a trapeze pouring vodka into ice sculptures shaped like naked male and female torsos…

    If there hadn't been two of them, the investigation would already be pointing to a single misfit, a lone nut bomber.



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    Salman El Halaby · Kaduna capital school

    Cia's chickens come home to roost,disgusting hypocricy how america and west is arming and funding the savage jihadis to rape Syria as they did Libya based on cocked up deceit and lies.


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    j570c (signed in using yahoo)

    Elements of US intelligence have also backed the Chechen jihadis:
    http://spitfirelist.com/news/reflect...fore-you-leap/
    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/04/mo...ce-emerge.html



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    Amn-tv RevBoxx · Dallas, Texas

    Hm.
    Plot gets much thicker.
    One way or the other, this is damning.
    Therefore, this is probably more evidence that CIA is running the Terrorists.


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    Hank George · U of Wisconsin-Milwaukee

    Nothing like a good "back story," Dan. Thank you...because I don't expect to read about this in the NY Times!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldgrunt View Post
    Koolbota: The references you gave were interesting and quite realistic. I'm not sure if you are trying to say that this was all fake at Boston or maybe trying to say there was a conspiracy but I do disagree with some of the comments made by the "EMTs" in the narrative. I had the unfortunate experience of seeing men killed and wounded and not all wounds were as described. One man I saw in Vietnam who had stepped on a mine had his right leg blown off from the knee down. The stump was severely burned and cauterized by the blast consequently, very little blood. He had other wounds which did bleed profusely but not like the comments by the EMTs. Another man, a medic, lost both legs to a Claymore mine. He immediately applied a tourniquet to the stump of one leg while others with him applied a tourniquet to the other leg. Fortunately, the blood flow was stopped before he could bleed to death. He was fortunate to have lived through that action but it was not as bloody as one would expect. All wounds are different and some of the most extensive I ever saw did not bleed as much as some much lighter wounds. One of the pictures in one of your references of a runner being carried after the Boston blast seemed different than the live action picture I saw of the same man being carried but I do not seriously believe that this was all staged. It has been proved that the government will do some low things but I can't accept that everything that happens is a conspiracy by the government. A goodly percentage maybe but not all. The administration is under a very black cloud now concerning gun running to Mexico, Benghazi and a myriad of other things that could bring the government down so it would not be unthinkable that something could happen to get the hounds off their backs! In this day and time, I would not put anything against anyone!
    I have not watched a lot of the coverage of the bombing. It has been my opinion that if the media would stop the wall to wall coverage and plastering the photos and names of the dirt bags that do the bombings, shootings or whatever mayhem that they do these events would stop or not be as many. So I refuse to sit in front of th TV an watch the endless coverage of these events and give these dirt bags any of my time or attention. So I am unable to give an informed opinion from what I have seen so far.
    But with obummer, his minions and the willing media there is very little that I would doubt that they would not do to advance their agenda. It does seem that the obummer minions were warned about the one brother and perhaps did know that something could happen. I do not know if they let it happen. I do believe that if obummer thought he could spin this to his advantage he would have let it happen. I do not trust or believe obummer an his minions on ANYTHING. I have thought from day one that obummer wants to destroy America and change it into something that we would not recognize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vernsimpson View Post
    So I refuse to sit in front of th TV an watch the endless coverage of these events and give these dirt bags any of my time or attention. So I am unable to give an informed opinion from what I have seen so far.
    And then a willfully uninformed opinion follows. What's up with that?

    Since you admit, even brag it would seem, that you can't be bothered with giving your attention to the topic of the thread, I guess I'm wasting my time trying to inform you what this is about. It's not about the Tsarnaev brothers, it's about the Saudi "student" who was originally held as a "person of interest" and in short-order released while Big Sis Napolitano testified before Congress over the last couple of days that he was of no terrorist concern to DHS. Well, perhaps you should inform yourself about why Napolitano and the entire Obama administration should be held to account for blatant lies that are now proven beyond any shadow of doubt about that "student." The link in the OP will get you started in understanding the controversies. The following is a follow-up and update to the link in the OP, and completely exposes Napolitano as a perjurer before Congress.


    Napolitano could serve “jail time for perjury,” Beck declared, and she will be “the first to fall.”

    Here are a couple of new points, as Beck related them:



    • The event file created for Abdul Rahman Ali Alharbi indicated he was “armed and dangerous”




    • Alharbi was admitted into the country under a “special advisory option,” which is usually reserved for visiting politicians, VIPs, or journalists. The event file cover page indicates he was granted his status without full vetting.



    • One of the first excuses given by law enforcement when confronted about Alharbi’s pending deportation was an expired visa. But according to the event file, his visa is good until 11-NOV-2016.




    • The event file indicates he entered the U.S. on 08/28/12 in Boston, MA but says he is a student at the University of Findlay, in Findlay, Ohio. He has an apartment in Boston, and doesn’t seem to have been a full-time student in Ohio.



    • When a file is created in the system, the author(s) are notified via email when it is accessed and given the email address of the person accessing, so there is a record within the government data system of who was there. It was amended to remove the deportation reference, then someone later went in and tried to destroy both the original event file and an amended versions. We won’t say who at this time, but copies have already been made.



    • The original event file was reviewed and approved by two high level agents – Chief Watch Commander Maimbourg and Watch Commander Mayfield.


    The above is only a brief excerpt of today's coverage of the developing story. Anyone interested in really understanding a bigger picture than that that confines itself to the Tsarnaev brothers, should read the whole thing. The Blaze is covering it in near real-time as Beck releases the new info during his radio show. That kind of pisses me off, as this started last Friday, and releasing it in dribs and drabs is a clear effort to profit from "teasers" that keep people coming back for more Blaze advertising, tracking, and traffic analyzing. Some things should transcend the profit-motive, and this seems like just such an issue to me. Still, the coverage is getting more and more bullet-proof as the days go by, so please do read the above link in its entirety and continue to follow the story. It's an important one.

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    No one has ever heard me say that I "hate" cops, because I don't. This is why I will never trust one again though: You just never know...

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    The 'dribs and drabs' is strategic, never reveal your full hand at once.

    As others squirm and make more mistakes.


    But then, you can think what you wish.

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    This article is on the Blaze today giving more information on the Saudi in question. Strange story about this fellowand even has ictures of Michelle Ob
    ama visiting him in the hospital. Oh well, what the hell.

    ?Armed and Dangerous?: Beck?s Latest Revelations on Saudi National Once a ?Person of Interest? in Boston Bombings | Video | TheBlaze.com

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