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    Quote Originally Posted by snatale42 View Post
    Is that even possible? They already have stricter laws than CT, not that anti's are into making sense, but holy crap! At what point is NJ going to assemble a pro2a group that actually gets something accomplished? The only states that are beyond hope are the ones where the resident have given up.
    I think New Jersey is pushing for a 5 round magaine limit, among other limitations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRI View Post
    . It is unbelievable what the legislators in NJ are doing to its citizens.
    It's not unbelievable at all. The citizens of NJ vote for their legislators, remember?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimTh View Post
    The reason they retire in the south is because the older you get the greater your chances of becoming a victim. In the south retirees live longer because they can defend their lives with a firearm and a bullet. In the north they need to wait for a fingerprint report to return clean. Anywhere north of Virginia is the danger zone and you flks up there need to carefully consider what is happening to you. Christie, Cuomo, Patrick, their families, and the other idiots running your states (even Bloomberg) never ever ever ever travel without protection (nah...I don't mean the condoms they have to pull over their heads) but you pathetic little expendables had better travel without protection. You and your family have no value to these people. You need to get out of those hell holes and let those retarded governments wither on the vine. If ya'll can do it en masse I bet there are more than a few people that will take you in. In mere months your states will crumble like a stale pie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whodat2710 View Post
    Better idea - If you are receiving government assistance (welfare, housing, food stamps) you can't vote. It is an obvious conflict of interest. Get off the dole and get your vote back.
    Let's see how easy it will be to put that into action... I love the idea and I believe it would render fairer elections.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bttbbob View Post
    I know all about that story, but the guy was a twit. He had his pants sagging and the gun was probably never actually concealed. But that really doesn't matter. We have the highest number of CCW permits in the country. I would say we were probably pretty pro 2nd amendment here. I am not sure though.
    Wow! Did you just say that? Because you have more permits than other states (I'll take your word for that), then that means you are MORE pro-2A? Could it be that you have more because your state does not allow open carry in any way? That sounds like quite an infringement on keeping and bearing a firearm. Granted FL is better than a lot of states, but don't use the argument that because you have more permit holders you are more pro 2A.

    Let's just say on this forum, the people here are pro-2A and quit having a pissing match as to whose state is best. Because hands down VT got it right and the other 49 states think that a permit needs to be issued which is a violation of all of our 2A rights.

    I agree with whodat and his 5 points. Abolish the infringing laws of law-abiding gun owners and actually put away the law-violators.
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    Quote Originally Posted by father-of-three View Post
    I could see a possible deal with Pennsylvania and Ohio, but Pennsylvania has no training requirement, which is why Pennsylvania has less reciprocity than states like Utah, Florida, and Arizona. I just don't see New York, New Jersey, and Maryland making an agreement with Pennsylvania, since those 3 states aren't too keen on letting their own citizens carrying firearms, let alone Pennsylvanians.
    I live in Pittsburgh... I have PA's LTCF, and I also have UT's permit. This picks me up OH and DE. I have told myself long ago, I am never going to get NY, NJ, or MD unless I get Act 120 Certification to become a cop. However, I now have 3 states I can travel out of PA legally out of the 6 that border it. When I first started to carry, I had none. Even WV didn't have reciprocity until about 6 years ago (more or less).
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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlesMorrison View Post
    Be careful of whom you speak of. We in the great State of Vermont are the last bastion of sanity in the North East!
    We got it right and we plan to keep it right!
    Watch out though. You might get an influx of libs from CT and NY trying to escape their rules. But will still bring along their state's ideas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlesMorrison View Post
    Be careful of whom you speak of. We in the great State of Vermont are the last bastion of sanity in the North East!
    We got it right and we plan to keep it right!
    surely you jest! aren't your US senators communists and socialists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by S&W645 View Post
    Watch out though. You might get an influx of libs from CT and NY trying to escape their rules. But will still bring along their state's ideas.
    the influx began years ago, first with the oddball hippies in the early '70s then the well to do from NYC and Boston brought their elitism to VT and they use the huge number of students near burlington as useful idiots. the state has more elected commies and socialists than almost any other state

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolf_fire View Post
    Wow! Did you just say that? Because you have more permits than other states (I'll take your word for that), then that means you are MORE pro-2A? Could it be that you have more because your state does not allow open carry in any way?
    sir: if you are going to rant get your facts right, in FLA you can OC while fishing, hunting, camping and to and from a shooting range.

    as for gun rights we have it pretty darned good here in FLA, it is usually quick and easy to get a concealed carry permit and you do not need any kind of permit to own or possess any guns. I will take what we have here over what you have in PA any day of the week.
    you need to understand that FLA is a very large state that encompasses a lot of different political views. In south FLA you may as well be in the north east with all the retirees who have brought their liberal views with them, in the central parts things can swing either way and that is where the politicians are made or broken, here in NE FLA we are quite conservative except for the urban cesspools like jacksonville and out across the panhandle is solidly conservative except for the government worker filled areas around the capitol of tallahassee

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