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  1. Alright... Let me clear a couple of things up here... 1. In the state of Florida it is not permissible to concealed carry in any place that sells alcohol, this is why you cannot take you gun into a bar or a college football game. 2. There is no part of Walt Disney property that that is not considered private property. 3. Over the last few years they had their property rezoned concerning firearms and it is now illegal to carry a gun on or around property unless you are a police officer on active duty or being called to the scene because they store and transport fireworks all around the property. SO... For those saying that you haven't seen any signs on property about no guns, you have already broken the law and could loose your license. And if you are in the park and get caught with a concealed weapon Disney will not deal with you with kid gloves, you will be charged and you will go to the orange county jail. Oh and BTW even employees who are also part time law enforcement officers are not even allowed to bring their gun on the property or store them in their vehicles in a company lot without being fired.

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  3. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan Brumfield View Post
    Alright... Let me clear a couple of things up here... 1. In the state of Florida it is not permissible to concealed carry in any place that sells alcohol,
    WRONG, you certainly can carry into any restaurant that serves alcohol and you can even consume alcohol while carrying, where do people like you get this nonsense from???

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan Brumfield View Post

    this is why you cannot take you gun into a bar or a college football game.
    not quite right, you cannot carry into an establishment that ONLY serves alcoholic beverages, if they offer one hard boiled egg for sale for consumption you can carry in there

    you cannot carry at a college football game because FLA law says that you cannot carry onto any college campus or to any school sponsored event that is not firearms related.



    a lot of semi correct stuff snipped

    the bottom line is that carrying at WDW or the other parks around orlando is not welcomed

  4. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by apvbguy View Post
    same answer as the other thread, disney does not want guns in/on any part of their property. the only place they actually search/scan people is at their parks. that said you more than likely would never be found out in most areas as long as you are properly concealed. You need to be aware that if you are found out they will ask you to leave the property and you MUST comply or you will be arrested for armed trespass which can be a felony. so if you decide to take the chance and carry there if you are found out don't argue that you have any kind of right to carry there, you don't and disney will have you prosecuted, this is no joke.
    The statement above is absolutely right, but that is true of any business in the state isn't it? I mean the same holds true at my local waffle house, they have a sign saying no firearms allowed which we all know really doesn't in itselft make it a crime to carry there. But if i was "made" so to speak and they ask me to leave and I don't, doesn't the same penalties apply?

  5. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by guitargain View Post
    The statement above is absolutely right, but that is true of any business in the state isn't it? I mean the same holds true at my local waffle house, they have a sign saying no firearms allowed which we all know really doesn't in itselft make it a crime to carry there. But if i was "made" so to speak and they ask me to leave and I don't, doesn't the same penalties apply?
    yes, you are correct, the statement holds true for any private property in FLA

  6. So, I am wrong? What exactly in the Florida state statue as I have emboldened below am I missing about any establishment with a license to sell alcohol being one of the places that we are not allowed to carry a firearm.

    Florida state statute
    790.06 License to carry concealed weapon or firearm.--
    (12) No license issued pursuant to this section shall authorize any person to carry a concealed weapon or firearm into any place of nuisance as defined in s. 823.05; any police, sheriff, or highway patrol station; any detention facility, prison, or jail; any courthouse; any courtroom, except that nothing in this section would preclude a judge from carrying a concealed weapon or determining who will carry a concealed weapon in his or her courtroom; any polling place; any meeting of the governing body of a county, public school district, municipality, or special district; any meeting of the Legislature or a committee thereof; any school, college, or professional athletic event not related to firearms; any school administration building; any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose; any elementary or secondary school facility; any career center; any college or university facility unless the licensee is a registered student, employee, or faculty member of such college or university and the weapon is a stun gun or nonlethal electric weapon or device designed solely for defensive purposes and the weapon does not fire a dart or projectile; inside the passenger terminal and sterile area of any airport, provided that no person shall be prohibited from carrying any legal firearm into the terminal, which firearm is encased for shipment for purposes of checking such firearm as baggage to be lawfully transported on any aircraft; or any place where the carrying of firearms is prohibited by federal law. Any person who willfully violates any provision of this subsection commits a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.

    And just let me say this, in this day when they (our government and the left wing media) are looking for any excuse to take our gun rights away whether they have the constitutional right to do so or not, we are the ones that claim to be upstanding, moral law abiding citizens. Our clean records and past good judgement, many of us having served in the US Armed forces and Law Enforcement have led us to the point we find ourselves. The world we live in is a violent one and we need the right to protect ourselves. But when I hear people on here saying things like: "If you get caught", "They are not looking for that", I have gotten away with it", etc, etc, etc... The point of the matter is that it only truly takes one bad apple to spoil the bunch. Do not break the law for your own sake of self pride and risk the chance that "If you get caught". Do you have any idea how the liberal press starting with the Orlando sentinel would crucify you and make you look like some gun toting lunatic that was carrying as loaded gun at a kiddy park. Even if the allegations are not true the damage has already been done. And just for the record, the theme parks really do do a really good job at protecting their guests inside their parks and resorts. Since 9/11 they have poured millions into infrastructure, rerouting roads, building barricades, installing high tech surveillance, etc. Just for example most people that go through the turnstiles these days do not understand why they are putting two fingers onto a scanner before they can go through the turnstile. That is a bio-metric scanner that can tell if you are angry, nervous, etc. And if you do not register in a mood they like they will send you to guest relations followed closely by a undercover security guard trained to ask you a series of questions that will reveal why your emotional state is anything other than excited to go ride a ride.

    So just keep it clean my friends. continue to obey the law and respect the wishes of places like Disney that have made it clear that they do not wish to have weapons in their parks...

  7. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan Brumfield View Post
    Oh and BTW even employees who are also part time law enforcement officers are not even allowed to bring their gun on the property or store them in their vehicles in a company lot without being fired.
    You can bring it on the property as long as you fire it?
    You can have good intentions and not be right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan Brumfield View Post
    any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose;
    The key world here is portion. If you go into a restaurant that serves alcohol, you can not go into the bar area. As long as you stay in the dining area of a restaurant that serves alcohol, then you can carry.

  9. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan Brumfield View Post
    So, I am wrong? What exactly in the Florida state statue as I have emboldened below am I missing about any establishment with a license to sell alcohol being one of the places that we are not allowed to carry a firearm.
    Up to now you have shown a complete lack of understanding of the gun laws in FLA! may I suggest you get your hands on Gutmacher's book and study, study, study until you become an expert in FLA gun laws

    now to attempt to answer the question, first you need define portion of establishment.
    is it the room where the bar is?
    is it a table near the bar?
    some places don't even have a "bar" they just bring your beverage to your table, is that the portion devoted to the serving of alcohol?

    this is where all you wannabe lawyers always get tripped up, the laws are never black and white, the laws are ambiguous. they are written to be ambiguous for a few reasons like lawyer employment or to give leeway to favored people.

    in this case there are no precedents that I know of so people are on they're own when determining what exactly the permits and prohibits. all you can do is act in a way that you feel comfortable with.

    if you think a strict interpretation is proper, stay away from any part of an establishment that is a bar area, if the bathroom necessitates that you go through bar area to access, you'll just have to hold it in! or you can take the view that concealed means concealed and while you wouldn't belly up to a bar you would not be so inhibited by the presence of a bar that you wouldn't have dinner in the place. YMMV

  10. #159
    Quote Originally Posted by mellophonium View Post
    The key world here is portion. If you go into a restaurant that serves alcohol, you can not go into the bar area. As long as you stay in the dining area of a restaurant that serves alcohol, then you can carry.
    what do you do if the bathroom requires you to go through the bar to access?

  11. #160
    Quote Originally Posted by apvbguy View Post
    what do you do if the bathroom requires you to go through the bar to access?
    Then it's going to be a long stream....

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    You can have good intentions and not be right.

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