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    Outrage of the Week

    Outrage of the Week

    Posted on May 10, 2013


    This week's outrage falls under the category of, "here we go again." A couple of seven-year-old Suffolk, Va. boys were recently suspended from school for violating their school's "weapons policy." Their violation? Pretending their pencils were guns.

    Apparently, the two received the disciplinary action after they pointed their pencils at each other as if they were guns and made "gun noises" while playing in class.

    You read that right. According to Bethanne Bradshaw of the Suffolk Public School system, "A pencil is a weapon when it is pointed at someone in a threatening way and gun noises are made."

    Wendy Marshall, the mother of one of the boys, says they were pretending to be in the military and that neither felt threatened. Still, both were suspended.

    There seems to be no end to these cases of "zero-tolerance" policies being applied with zero common sense. We recently reported on a seven-year-old Baltimore student who was suspended for two days for shaping a breakfast pastry into what his teacher thought looked like a gun. And then there was the recent case of another first-grader in Maryland who was suspended for holding his fingers in the shape of a gun and saying, "Pow!" while playing at school. Where does the ridiculousness end?

    As we've noted over and over again, we all agree that we want our children to be safe at school, and that reasonable safety measures should be followed. But we must also exercise good judgment and discretion. When school administrators continue to allow zero-common sense enforcement of "zero-tolerance" regulations, we've bypassed reasonable and arrived at outrageous.
    NRA-ILA | Outrage of the Week--May 10, 2013
    Va. Boy Suspended for Pointing Pencil Like Gun

    Tuesday, May 7, 2013 | Updated 6:58 AM EDT

    A seven-year-old Virginia boy was suspended for pretending a pencil was a gun at his Suffolk school.

    Christopher Marshall apologized for the incident, but the school has a zero tolerance policy when it comes to weapons or threats of weapons.
    The boy's father is furious.
    "Enough is enough. I mean, where will we draw the line?" said Paul Marshall. " I mean, a pencil. Was it sharpened? Was it not? Was it a No. 2? What's the big deal?"
    The school said that they stand by their policy.
    "A pencil is a weapon when it is pointed at someone in a threatening way and gun noises are made," said Bethanne Bradshaw of Suffolk Public Schools.
    The suspension follows others in the D.C. metro area that have been protested by parents. In March, a 7-year-old Maryland boy was suspended for nibbling a breakfast pastry into the shape of a gun.
    In January, a Maryland boy was suspended for a day for pointing his fingers into the shape of a gun and saying "Pow!" while playing. That event was later taken off his school record.
    Va. Boy Suspended for Pointing Pencil Like Gun | NBC4 Washington


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    An asylum run by its inmates and formerly known as the USA. If they can elect an incompetent moslem socialist as prez, they can come up with anything.

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    "Moslem socialist". There's a contradiction.

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    In cases like this I feel there should be a test in the womb and abortion should be paid for with our tax money if they demonstrate zero intelligence... They we might get some people that at least have enough sense to pour piss out of a boot....


    To say this was a weapon is like saying an ant is a baby Godzilla.
    Folks ask why I carry two guns...Well if I did not I'd be off balance and walk in circles!

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    "A pencil is a weapon when it is pointed at someone in a threatening way and gun noises are made."
    After all, pencils are weapons of math instruction.

    (Finding the corresponding joke is left as an exercise for the reader.)
    Never argue with a red-haired witch. It wastes your breath and only delays the inevitable. --the collected sayings of Wiz Zumwalt

  7. If they could sue the school dist for keeping their kids out of school for nonsense. and take money from them they would stop this stuff. any Lawyer out there? is that a reason for a lawsuit?
    right for a education and personal damages for mental harm to a 7 y
    ear old that will last for ever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdprof View Post
    "A pencil is a weapon when it is pointed at someone in a threatening way and gun noises are made."
    After all, pencils are weapons of math instruction.

    (Finding the corresponding joke is left as an exercise for the reader.)
    ......... *crickets*

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    I teach in a high school, and I have to say there are a small number of idiots working there, but there are many more logically minded, common sense type folks.

    You report of a story about idiot administrators. Yet, the other day, the forensics science teacher asked me to present to her forensics science class the anatomy of a firearm and what markings are made on the casings and bullets for crime labs to look at. I spent the whole day teaching about firearms, it was a good day. I'll be happy to report, I was not suspended nor any of the students, who I have to say, asked wonderful questions throughout the lesson.

    I'll also give an example of one of the idiot administrators I have run across (she didn't last long). I carry a wallet with a stainless steel chain attached to it (no thicker than 1/4"). Every once in awhile when we passed, she'd point at the chain and ask if it was a weapon, but wouldn't stop for an answer. One day, while I was talking to another colleague, she actually grabbed the chain (way too close for my comfort zone) held it and asked it were a weapon. In front of my colleague, I raised the pen in my hands and asked, "Were you aware that ten pounds of force against the carotid artery with a pen such as this would cause a person to bleed out in about 25-35 seconds, shall we then ban pens?". She dropped the chain and never asked about it again. Knowledge is what people need. Not more knee-jerking reactionaries. This administrator was a knee-jerking reactionary. Fortunately, she did not last long.

    Hopefully, these administrators that are bullying our children who are just playing, will find their careers cut short too.
    "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote."
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolf_fire View Post
    I teach in a high school, and I have to say there are a small number of idiots working there, but there are many more logically minded, common sense type folks.

    You report of a story about idiot administrators. Yet, the other day, the forensics science teacher asked me to present to her forensics science class the anatomy of a firearm and what markings are made on the casings and bullets for crime labs to look at. I spent the whole day teaching about firearms, it was a good day. I'll be happy to report, I was not suspended nor any of the students, who I have to say, asked wonderful questions throughout the lesson.

    I'll also give an example of one of the idiot administrators I have run across (she didn't last long). I carry a wallet with a stainless steel chain attached to it (no thicker than 1/4"). Every once in awhile when we passed, she'd point at the chain and ask if it was a weapon, but wouldn't stop for an answer. One day, while I was talking to another colleague, she actually grabbed the chain (way too close for my comfort zone) held it and asked it were a weapon. In front of my colleague, I raised the pen in my hands and asked, "Were you aware that ten pounds of force against the carotid artery with a pen such as this would cause a person to bleed out in about 25-35 seconds, shall we then ban pens?". She dropped the chain and never asked about it again. Knowledge is what people need. Not more knee-jerking reactionaries. This administrator was a knee-jerking reactionary. Fortunately, she did not last long.

    Hopefully, these administrators that are bullying our children who are just playing, will find their careers cut short too.
    I took a forensics class in high school (sorta)! Even though I wasn't technically enrolled in the class it was by far the best class I had in high school. The teacher was awesome. I started studying ballistics when I was about 14 for reloading and long-range shooting so when she didn't know the answer to something about firearms she had no problem letting me jump in and help explain it to the class.

    But we had some of those admins too, and god forbid you talk about or even mention firearms outside of that class, they'd suspend you immediately. "Common-sense" wasn't in their vocabulary. I remember once while I was in in-school-suspension for something and one of the other kids in there made a joke about wanting to kill himself. This kid was the class clown and everyone and their Uncle Bob knew this kid was joking when he said it, but nonetheless one of the Asst. Principals called the SRO and had him take him in for a 72 hr hold... It was completely ridiculous.

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