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    Minnesota Police Chief Turns to Public for Ammo Handouts (VIDEO)

    Haven't seen this posted before.



    Everybody’s having a hard time finding ammunition. Even people who work at ammunition manufacturing facilities are having a hard time finding ammunition. For months now, people have been buying all the ammo they can find in response to gun control proposals and laws passed and pending.

    The effects of this have fallen at the feet of many law enforcement agencies, who are having an extra-difficult time finding both target and training ammunition as well as self-defense ammo.

    It has gotten to the point where police departments are cutting back on training and rationing their existing ammunition.

    When Proctor, Minn. chief of police Walt Wobig found out that his department wouldn’t be able to lay hands on ammunition for six to eight months, he put out a call for help, and the people answered.

    I was really surprised, let’s just put it that way,” said Wobig to NNCNOW.com.

    “I go, ‘Do you have 40–caliber qualification rounds?’ And [the supplier said], ‘Well, no. It’s going to take six to eight months,” Wobig continued. ”The citizens were like, ‘If you need something, we got plenty here.’”

    “I had several other calls from other citizens that said, ‘Hey, if you need more ammunition we have plenty,’” said Wobig, “I know that if I need ammunition I have citizens out there that will gladly come forward.”

    The Chief considers the ammo a “loan” and will replace what the department uses when they eventually get ammo through standard channels.

    And while there’s no mystery as to why the public is stockpiling ammo, that does touch on another subject, why is the Department of Homeland Security stockpiling ammo?

    To-date, the DHS has not supplied an official reason for their massive multi-billion-round ammunition purchases, which will be spread out over the next five years.

    “With more than 100,000 armed law enforcement personnel in DHS, significant quantities of ammunition are used to support law enforcement operations, quarterly qualifications, and training, to include advanced firearms training exercises,” said agency spokesman Peter Boogaard to Congress.

    Some have suggested that the DHS was building up a cache to share with local law enforcement should the need arise, although that doesn’t appear to be the case in Proctor; “support” must have another meaning.

    The DHS is currently under investigation by the Government Accountability Office for their ammo purchases. The GAO launched their investigation following the DHS testimony to Congress, which they found unconvincing.

    Still, it must be reassuring to the people of Proctor that their neighbors are happy to help out like this. Not every community would be willing to do the same.

    Would you loan your ammo to your local PD if they ran out? Or would you tell them to kindly call DHS to see if they’d be willing to help?
    Categories: Ammunition, Politics & 2nd Amendment, Product & Industry News


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    We as a LGS have already been contacted by the local PD that the students they want to attend school need 1500 rounds per student. They are backing 3 students so need 4500 rounds. All has to be .40 S&W 180gr FN FMJ new ammo. We got 500 rounds in today of, a 6000 round order. As class starts near the end of the month, if need be, I'll put up some of my own to cover at least one of the students. I already know that for the PD itself, they've had to drive about 8 hours round trip to get ammo recently.
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    Screw that! I only have around 500 rounds of .40 cal. Mostly FPFMJ and some good hollow point rounds.
    I'm still looking for 9mm as I only have about 250 rounds of SD/FMJ. I can't afford to "lend" any out.
    I haven't shot in months because of the hard time I'm having replacing what I shoot!


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    No problem finding ammo here, local shops have plenty. Only Walmart has empty shelves.
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    I live in a larger city and I would not be willing to share my ammo and I have plenty of it. However, in a smaller town (Proctor had a pop. of 3057 in 2010) where maybe I knew the law enforcement and there was a more personal relationship, I think that I might be willing to allow them to borrow with the premise they would replace it later on.

    My fear however, is that if the LE agencies (again I'm thinking larger agencies, I live in Pittsburgh) can't get ammo, why in the world I reduce my security in my home when the police don't have enough ammo for their security? At that point, I'm not as secure AND the police are not as secure... hmmmmm, sounds like a wild time of criminal activity.
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    Minnesota Police Chief Turns to Public for Ammo Handouts (VIDEO)

    Ya...even if I did have tens of thousand of rounds like some people of here do, I wouldn't be sharing with the LE agencies. Maybe some defense/duty ammo if they were completely out and short. I wouldn't want any LEO out on the street unarmed but I wouldn't be sharing any FMJ. I know the rate at which they go through it, and most of the cops I know still can't hit the broad side of a barn. One of the CMTs I work with in the military is also a LEO firearms instructor and he's told me that most of the Marines he teaches, that have never shot a pistol before, are still better shots than 90% of the cops he qualifies. And we get WAY less than 1500 rounds of practice ammo. Our course of fire for pistol qual is 40 rds and I think the first time I qualified I only got to dry run it about 3 times first.

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    Minnesota Police Chief Turns to Public for Ammo Handouts (VIDEO)

    In a small town where I knew some LEO's I would consider it. It would all depend on the position of the LEOs. If they were on record aligning with the current POS they can call their savior for ammo.

    Big city... Forget it.
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    60,000 population here and I do know some of the cops and one of the soon to be students. As far as the going defenseless, not a problem. .40 S&W is not my primary round. .45ACP with 9mm as backup will still get the job done.
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    I would NOT give my local LEO a single round! they are behind Oblowme 100%

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    I wouldn't mind helping them out, so long as I could use their range too :P would save me gas money I could use on buying more ammo! (also could get more practice in to boot) lol

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