I still say that if you use a large caliber round. You'll take out larger chunks of flesh and organs out as it passes through. Your above is really why I do not like 9mm, to fast and to small. The story you quote is the anomaly not the rule but large chunks out of the BG will lead to a quicker de-escalation of the event. NOT saying 9 mil is bad, juz saying I prefer a larger chunk of SJHP