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    Should have been charged with something for killing her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolf_fire View Post
    I'm sorry, I have to unequivocally disagree with what you just said. Are there firearms that are more difficult to tell if they are loaded or not, yes. But it is the firearm owner's responsibility to know how each and every firearm operates BEFORE ever loading a round through. You mention you almost took off a toe. Seriously? Why did you not know how to visual and/or manually check to see if your firearm had a round in it. This is why there are no accidental discharges... only negligent ones. Remember rule #1, all firearms are always loaded. This is a state of mind. ... also #2, don't point at or sweep over anything you do not wish to be destroyed. Apparently you don't like your toes too much. #3, keep your finger off the trigger until you are on target and made the conscious decision to shoot, and #4 be aware of your target, what is in front and what is beyond.

    People who do not follow each of the four rules of safe firearm handling are doomed to eventually have a problem.

    I have put 10's of thousands of rounds through my firearms... I have never had the "near misses" and "oops" moments I hear all the time on these forums. Why? I simply follow those 4 rules. They're very easy to follow, but some are too lazy to do so.
    Sorry for offending ya fella. My post was not in search of a lecture. It was experience that I imparted so that others way avoid shooting their toes off. If you have no interest in helping someone avoid pitfalls that you have had maybe you should just impart your wisdom on FB. Maybe you were born perfect...hey maybe you are the messiah...don't know though.Otherwise I suggest you keep quiet when someone wants to express near misses in order to help others avoid the same pitfalls. It never hurts to tell someone how to avoid shooting themselves in the foot with a gun and now I tell you how to avoid shooting yourself in the foot with your key strokes. Get the point yet? Whatever you do, do not have children because you are going to be sorely disappointed or maybe you will just beat the hell out of them until they become perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TroutStalker View Post
    Dumb ass kid. Classic example of an untrained gun owner. Who points a weapon towards another individual and pulls the trigger? Its right at the top of the list of training.
    Yes... NRA gun safety rules
    #1: Always keep the gun pointed in a safe direction.
    #2: Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to shoot.
    #3: Keep the gun unloaded until ready to use.
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    Indict him for criminally negligent homicide. I'm sick of these people ruining it for everyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimTh View Post
    Sorry for offending ya fella. My post was not in search of a lecture. It was experience that I imparted so that others way avoid shooting their toes off. If you have no interest in helping someone avoid pitfalls that you have had maybe you should just impart your wisdom on FB. Maybe you were born perfect...hey maybe you are the messiah...don't know though.Otherwise I suggest you keep quiet when someone wants to express near misses in order to help others avoid the same pitfalls. It never hurts to tell someone how to avoid shooting themselves in the foot with a gun and now I tell you how to avoid shooting yourself in the foot with your key strokes. Get the point yet? Whatever you do, do not have children because you are going to be sorely disappointed or maybe you will just beat the hell out of them until they become perfect.
    Offend me? Absolutely not. I don't get offended easily. Perfect? laughable. I am not perfect. Taking a post on this site personally? Now you have me falling off my chair laughing.

    You suggest that you are helping people to avoid pitfalls. Read my post again. I will always refer back to the four basic rules of safe gun handling to avoid EVERY pitfall because that IS helping people to avoid pitfalls. If you somehow took my post as a personal affront, then sir it is you that has a problem. Maybe you really should have learned how to use your firearm before you almost blew your toes off.

    Defending against those four rules sir, makes you sound like an idiot and when you sprinkle your post with sarcastic personal jabs ("born perfect", "you are the messiah") you just sound like a wounded puppy.

    You mention one thing that I agree with, "It never hurts to tell someone how to avoid shooting themselves in the foot with a gun". This is why I remind people who don't follow the four rules of safe gun handling about them. YOU sir did not follow them. YOU sir did not know how your firearm worked before you used it. YOU sir did not know how to unload your firearm. YOU sir did not follow the four rules of safe gun handling and now you have the audacity to tell ME to shut up. You are laughable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimTh View Post
    Interesting how the read goes "Slain by brothers AK 47" kind of like the toddler that was run over by an SUV. It is a miracle that inanimate objects now can kill us. It is the rise of the machines. I am waiting for Arnold to be back.

    Other than that these are lessons for every dumbass kid that wants a gun...make them read every article available about how little idiots like themselves just know enough to get someone killed. That is how I taught my daughter by the way. She did not need a lot of my lectures...she knows what happens when you pull the trigger. Perhaps parents need to whack them over the head with a butt stock once in a while so they can get the message that if you are not careful you can really hurt someone with a gun...yeah...how about a good pistol whippin every so often so they understand guns can hurt you. I don't know if I want to feel bad for the kid on the trigger or just go beat his ass black and blue. No...I don't need anger management...I need a drink!
    Quote Originally Posted by JimTh View Post
    Sometimes, even when you think the gun is unloaded, it may still be loaded.
    What? You never "think" a gun is unloaded. You unload the damn gun. And you don't let Charles Darwin teach your kids about firearms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peggy Reist View Post
    No charges filed? Isn't negligent homicide enough to charge the stupid brother?
    If I were the judge, I'd charge him with manslaughter and sentence him to time served. That would require the surrender of his firearms and 2A rights since he is not responsible enough to handle them. Regardless of any charges that do or do not get filed, he will be paying for this one for the rest of his life. I'll be surprised if he doesn't end up committing suicide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BC1 View Post
    What? You never "think" a gun is unloaded. You unload the damn gun. And you don't let Charles Darwin teach your kids about firearms.
    I take that to mean that you simply act like an automaton. Is that a good thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolf_fire View Post
    Offend me? Absolutely not. I don't get offended easily. Perfect? laughable. I am not perfect. Taking a post on this site personally? Now you have me falling off my chair laughing.

    You suggest that you are helping people to avoid pitfalls. Read my post again. I will always refer back to the four basic rules of safe gun handling to avoid EVERY pitfall because that IS helping people to avoid pitfalls. If you somehow took my post as a personal affront, then sir it is you that has a problem. Maybe you really should have learned how to use your firearm before you almost blew your toes off.

    Defending against those four rules sir, makes you sound like an idiot and when you sprinkle your post with sarcastic personal jabs ("born perfect", "you are the messiah") you just sound like a wounded puppy.

    You mention one thing that I agree with, "It never hurts to tell someone how to avoid shooting themselves in the foot with a gun". This is why I remind people who don't follow the four rules of safe gun handling about them. YOU sir did not follow them. YOU sir did not know how your firearm worked before you used it. YOU sir did not know how to unload your firearm. YOU sir did not follow the four rules of safe gun handling and now you have the audacity to tell ME to shut up. You are laughable.
    I suspect you have never had hash marks in your underwear or even your diapers. That sir, is how amazingly perfect you have shown yourself to be!

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    As soon as his finger operated the trigger, it went from an accident to negligence. There was a conscience act there. It would have been an accident if the kid had not touched the trigger and it had gone off. Manslaughter fits the bill as firing a gun in the home where a death occurs is under that charge in Florida.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimTh View Post
    I take that to mean that you simply act like an automaton. Is that a good thing?
    No. There is nothing "simple" about handling firearms. You unload the gun before cleaning it. Period. There ends the lesson.
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