Homeless Rights? - Page 2
Page 2 of 5 FirstFirst 1234 ... LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 44

Thread: Homeless Rights?

  1. To counter the question with a question: Why would a homeless person not have the same right to keep and bear arms as anyone else? Are human rights tied to property ownership or economic status in this country? Do we only allow the wealthy to defend themselves, and not the poor? Is this a democratic republic, or not? This is one of the problems with many of the gun control laws that are passed, that they tend to favor the wealthy and powerful and disenfranchise the poor. Our system is intended to guarantee that that never happens. You might as well ask, "Are Jews allowed to have guns?" "Are black people allowed to have guns?" "Are people of Japanese or Chinese or Mexican or Irish or Italian or Arabic descent allowed to have guns?" If you're going to pick a group and take away their God-given, constitutionally guaranteed rights, what is the standard for your choice?

  2.   
  3. [QUOTE=jcreek;441194]Of course they still have the RIGHT to bear arms however, homelessness is often caused by things like severe drug addiction or inability to hold down a job due to metal illness which would disqualify them. In addition, I have a feeling most would prefer have $500 of food or clothing rather than a Glock.[/QUO

    Not all weapons are new Glocks or expensive firearms. There are millions of hand me down guns received as gifts. If I found my self living on the mean streets of Phoenix even a cheep Jennings or Raven would be comforting.

  4. #13

    Lightbulb Homeless

    Quote Originally Posted by momstar View Post
    There is a large part of the general population who looks at it negatively that I own/carry a gun - and I've lived in the same house 15 years now.

    I agree with others who said that homelessness alone would not end anyone's rights, but the reason for them being homeless might (mental illness). Homeless doesn't necessarily mean living under a bridge - it can mean living in your car, renting various campsites, or crashing on a series of friends' couches.
    It can also mean living in an RV full time !

  5. #14
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    State of Confusion
    Posts
    7,733
    The bill of rights is not contingent on having a home. It applies to all equally.
    GOD, GUNS and GUITARS

  6. #15
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    The Real World
    Posts
    8,377
    Quote Originally Posted by BluesStringer View Post
    I will never answer the question in a way that denies any citizen his/her rights under the Constitution without due process, so I'll say yeah, homeless folks should be allowed the same rights or privileges or permissions as anyone else until such time as a legal process identifies them as ineligible. I just don't think that there's going to be very many instances across the country where it's a civil rights issue. In the overwhelming majority of cases, I believe it is going to be a medical issue, so I wouldn't advocate for any special laws to cover homeless people only.

    Blues
    We haven't seen anything yet. To fully experience the consequences of "Fundamentally Changing the United States of America" we must wait for ObamaCare to be in full effect, and ENFORCED.
    ~ AMERICA'S EPITAPH ~
    "Since They Did Not See Fit To Acknowledge God, God Gave Them Up To A Depraved Mind, To Do What Should Not Be Done"

  7. #16
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Saginaw, Michigan
    Posts
    3,515
    Quote Originally Posted by BluesStringer View Post
    -snip-
    so I'll say yeah, homeless folks should be allowed the same rights or privileges or permissions as anyone else until such time as a legal process identifies them as ineligible.
    -snip-

    Blues
    With respect Blues...

    I would be very careful of using the disclaimer of, and I quote:

    "until such time as a legal process identifies them as ineligible"

    because those in power are in control of what constitutes... "a legal process". All that is necessary is for those in power to change the criteria and "a legal process" could make everyone "ineligible".

    There are other ways to deal with protecting society from those who are violent criminals and those who are violently mentally ill than denying natural born rights. And the laws in regards to those methods of incarceration and commitment are already on the books.

    The right to keep and bear arms is something (a right) each individual is born with just the same as they are born with arms or legs or a heart and lungs and is nothing more than an extension of the natural right to defend life. Simply because if we don't have the ability to protect our lives and end up dead... having rights suddenly becomes a moot concept.

    And a homeless person has just as much right to protect their life as a rich dude living in a mansion.

  8. I have invented a throwing knife that always "sticks". After you throw it, it's still in your hand ,too(in a most effective manner! :-) It will probably retail for about $60, but aint hard to homemake, so used ones will soon be everywhere, for the $10 or so that a homeless person can afford. It will also offer quiet, harmless practice (via a rubber tip) that the homeless (and teenagers everywhere) can use to entertain themeselves any place tht they can susspend an old blanket or hunk of carpet, to act as a "catcher" for the blade. :-)

    Such a weapon isn't even illegal to carry in most US jurisdictions, and it can legally be shipped in the mail to almost anyone. in this country. Virtually anyone can learn to be quite effective with it to 10 yds of distance, and if the knife point and edges are serrated and chemically-treated, it can be used to 20 yds, by those with strong arms. Again, it is silent, and also, it will pierce kevlar. It's going to sell very well, provided that I can get it and its nylon, IWB, velcro-wrap-beltpc, made for about $15, by the thousands. :-)

  9. This is just a very few months from local market testing and less than a year from being massively available, almost anywhere. It will seriously hurt the sale of junk autos and revolvers, and probably almost wipe out the sales of derringers and mini-revolvers. :-) You can ccw a pair of them in front of your hips, and another pair of them behind your hips, and have thrown 6 lethal projectiles, while still retaining one such in each hand. I can start, hands on hips, everything concealed, and put 2 of them on a torso at 5 yds in well under 1.5 seconds, throwing with both hands at the same time. In another 2.0 seconds, I can put 2 more blades into that torso.


    I am busy practicing doing all this as I charge a pair of targets, placed 20 ft from where I start, 6 ft apart. I can't yet reliably get all hits, but soon it will be a YouTube video. :-) It's not at all hard to be more deadly with this sytem than ANYONE is with a mini revolver, and twice as deadly as anyone who only has a derringer. :-)


    NO background checks, to buy this, no manufacturere's license, nothing left at any scene, no "ballistic marks", no serial numbers, no nothin, practice in attic, garage, basement, abandoned building, or thicket, all you want, no further cost at all! And the sharp edges and point will of course serve all the many uses of any other knife.


    Many millions of people, world wide, are soon going to be quite skilled with this weapon. It is my hope that many of the oppressed will use them to take pistols and AK's from the tyrant's minions. :-)

  10. #19
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Saginaw, Michigan
    Posts
    3,515
    Quote Originally Posted by yuppor View Post
    I have invented a throwing knife that always "sticks". After you throw it, it's still in your hand ,too, in a most effective manner! :-) It will probably retail for about $60, but aint hard to homemake, so used ones will soon be everywhere, for the $10 or so that a homeless person can afford. It will also offer quiet, harmless practice (via a rubber tip) that they, and teenagers everywhere) can use to entertain themeselves any place tht they can susspend an old blanket or hunk of carpet, to act as a "catcher" for the blade. :-) Such a weapon isn't even illegal to carry in most jurisdictions, and it can legally be shipped in the mail to almost anyone. Virtually anyone can learn to be quite effective with it to 10 yds of distance, and if the knife point and edges are serrated and chemically treated, it can be used to 20 yds, by those with strong arms. Again, silent, and also it will pierce kevlar. It's going to sell very well, provided that I can get it and its nylon, IWB, velcro-wrap-beltpc, made for about $15.
    Quote Originally Posted by yuppor View Post
    This is just a very few months from local market testing and less than a year from being massively available, almost anywhere. It will seriously hurt the sale of junk autos and revolvers, and proably almost wipe out the sales of derringers and mini-revolvers. :-) You can ccw a pair of them in front of your hips, and anothe pair of them behind your hips, and have 6 lethal projectiles, while retaining one such in each hand. I can start, hands on hips, everthing concealed, and put 2 of them on a torso at 5 yds in well under 1.5 seconds, throwing with both hands at the same time. In another 2.0 seconds, I can put 2 more blades into that torso. I am busy practicing doing all this as I charge a pair of targets, placed 20 ft from where I start, 6 ft apart. It's not at all hard to be more deadly with this sytem than ANYone is with a mini revolver, and twice as deadly as anyone who only has a derringer. :-) NO background checks, no nothin, practice in attic, garage, basement, abandoned building, or thicket, all you want, no further cost at all! Many millions of people, world wide, or going to be quite skilled with this weapon, very soon now. Many will use them to take pistols and AK's from the tyrant's minions. :-)
    I'm gonna stick around just for the entertainment....

  11. #20
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    The Real World
    Posts
    8,377
    Quote Originally Posted by Bikenut View Post
    With respect Blues...

    I would be very careful of using the disclaimer of, and I quote:

    "until such time as a legal process identifies them as ineligible"

    because those in power are in control of what constitutes... "a legal process". All that is necessary is for those in power to change the criteria and "a legal process" could make everyone "ineligible".
    With respect Bikenut, don't you get it??? What do you think will be the result of ObamaCare when "in full effect, and ENFORCED"? ObamaCare will be that "legal process" to identify them as ineligible to own a firearm.
    ~ AMERICA'S EPITAPH ~
    "Since They Did Not See Fit To Acknowledge God, God Gave Them Up To A Depraved Mind, To Do What Should Not Be Done"

Page 2 of 5 FirstFirst 1234 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Quantcast