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  1. What's the most you'd pay for .223?

    Our local Academy Sports had tons of 20 round boxes of TulAmmo .233 for $5.99 and I was buying it up as fast as I could (they only let you buy 1 box per day...bastards!). Now the best they have is American Eagle 20-round boxes for $8.99. That seems to be getting up higher per round than I'd like to be paying, but it's still a decent bit lower than anyone else's prices. So given the current availability of ammo, what's the highest per-round price you'd pay for .223?

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    $8.99 is the going rate around here for 20rd boxes too. Luckily, I have no .223 shortages so I don't have to mess with the "gouging".

    Ideally, I'd prefer to pay no more than .30 per round. But, if I had none and needed some.... well, y'know.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by gunnerbob View Post
    $8.99 is the going rate around here for 20rd boxes too. Luckily, I have no .223 shortages so I don't have to mess with the "gouging".

    Ideally, I'd prefer to pay no more than .30 per round. But, if I had none and needed some.... well, y'know.
    Yeah I have about 600 rounds right now but at $5.99 a box I was just going to Academy every time they changed shifts at the ammo counter. But that's just because that was half of anywhere else around here and I can't find anything online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndeyHall View Post
    Our local Academy Sports had tons of 20 round boxes of TulAmmo .233 for $5.99 and I was buying it up as fast as I could (they only let you buy 1 box per day...bastards!). Now the best they have is American Eagle 20-round boxes for $8.99. That seems to be getting up higher per round than I'd like to be paying, but it's still a decent bit lower than anyone else's prices. So given the current availability of ammo, what's the highest per-round price you'd pay for .223?
    There is a big difference between TulAmmo and AE. The TulAmmo is going to be steel cased while the AE is brass. Some guns don't like the poly coating when hot. I prefer Federal XM193 for mine and have some XM855 also. 5.56 SP 65gr cost me $340/1000 before the madness started and XM855 was going for $1.00/round a month ago.
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    I have a case of 1000rds of AE, XM193. I have another, almost 1000rds of Tula 55gr FMJ and some tracers floating around too.

    .223/5.56 isn't my primary loading, so I don't keep too much on hand.
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by S&W645 View Post
    There is a big difference between TulAmmo and AE. The TulAmmo is going to be steel cased while the AE is brass. Some guns don't like the poly coating when hot. I prefer Federal XM193 for mine and have some XM855 also. 5.56 SP 65gr cost me $340/1000 before the madness started and XM855 was going for $1.00/round a month ago.
    I don't reload though so I don't really care if its brass or steel. I've put about 3-400 rounds of the TulAmmo through it so far and haven't had the first issue. I don't plan on getting it any hotter than that.

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    ARs (& other close tolerance weapons) will see failures with prolonged use of steel case ammo without recurrent cleanings. The reason is, as stated, the tolerances. The close tolerances of the AR serve to create exceptional accuracy potential but lend themselves to less room around the steel case for the dirty gases, eventually leading to a malfunction. With recurrent cleaning, this should be a non-issue. Steel cases do not expand to the degree of brass while combustion takes place. Brass, on the other hand, expands to seal the chamber... preventing excessive amounts of gas from entering. So, it lends itself better to prolonged use in such a weapon as the AR, between cleanings. Accuracy is also another factor between brass and steel. If you're going for what's referred to as "combat accuracy", you will likely get the results desired from both types of ammo. If, however, you're going for maximum accuracy... brass should be your choice. The reasons are the same, chamber sealing under combustion thus reducing the amount of play in the cartridge/bullet during firing. Under normal circumstances, most will see no real difference in accuracy... maybe an inch at 100yrds.

    Cheaper, steel case loadings are great for lower cost training and they aren't too shabby at dropping your intended target. At extended distances, one should look to quality, brass loadings. Another thing to think about with most steel case loadings... they usually have a bi-metal jacket and don't lend themselves to impressive expansion or deformation. However, in combat, this is much less of a concern and the penetration advantage of a harder jacket is good for punching through light cover.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnerbob View Post
    I have a case of 1000rds of AE, XM193. I have another, almost 1000rds of Tula 55gr FMJ and some tracers floating around too.

    .223/5.56 isn't my primary loading, so I don't keep too much on hand.
    I'll trade you some M855's for some M193's. I can't shoot them in three gun competitions because the steal core tears up the plates and then you get in trouble and have to leave.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by gunnerbob View Post
    ARs (& other close tolerance weapons) will see failures with prolonged use of steel case ammo without recurrent cleanings. The reason is, as stated, the tolerances. The close tolerances of the AR serve to create exceptional accuracy potential but lend themselves to less room around the steel case for the dirty gases, eventually leading to a malfunction. With recurrent cleaning, this should be a non-issue. Steel cases do not expand to the degree of brass while combustion takes place. Brass, on the other hand, expands to seal the chamber... preventing excessive amounts of gas from entering. So, it lends itself better to prolonged use in such a weapon as the AR, between cleanings. Accuracy is also another factor between brass and steel. If you're going for what's referred to as "combat accuracy", you will likely get the results desired from both types of ammo. If, however, you're going for maximum accuracy... brass should be your choice. The reasons are the same, chamber sealing under combustion thus reducing the amount of play in the cartridge/bullet during firing. Under normal circumstances, most will see no real difference in accuracy... maybe an inch at 100yrds.

    Cheaper, steel case loadings are great for lower cost training and they aren't too shabby at dropping your intended target. At extended distances, one should look to quality, brass loadings. Another thing to think about with most steel case loadings... they usually have a bi-metal jacket and don't lend themselves to impressive expansion or deformation. However, in combat, this is much less of a concern and the penetration advantage of a harder jacket is good for punching through light cover.
    Thanks for the info and insight!

  11. I'd give .31 cents a round for XM193. Same price I paid a year ago after spending a few days searching. I won't need any for a while, however.

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