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  1. Thanks all I knew I was right just wanted to make sure though.

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    It does matter what state you are in too. WA does not allow SBR or SBS, even with a tax stamp. Just last year our infringer against suppressors was lifted. Pretty terrible yea...

    Gun gurus can correct this information, but I thought it was not only any barrel length shorter than 16", but also any rifle with an overall length less than 28"? (ie bullpups).

    Also, I have a question regarding this. I just watched a video about an "adaptive carbine platform." Many companies are making them, basically turning your handgun into an sbr. One video stated, because theoretically the platform can turn a handgun into a sbr you need the tax stamp. Does that also mean anyone with an ar pistol or ak pistol with extra stocks in their home could theoretically put together a sbr, and would also need tax stamps?

    Then again, they said the tax stamps were excellent, and any fine American is okay with paying for that infringement...
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    The way it was explained to me by the BATFE regarding a pistol I purchased was; no butt stock and less than an overall length of 24" provides for a pistol determination. Being that a rifle requires a 16" barrel for determination, less than 16" with a butt stock would provide for a SBR determination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefighterchen View Post
    It does matter what state you are in too. WA does not allow SBR or SBS, even with a tax stamp. Just last year our infringer against suppressors was lifted. Pretty terrible yea...

    Gun gurus can correct this information, but I thought it was not only any barrel length shorter than 16", but also any rifle with an overall length less than 28"? (ie bullpups).

    Also, I have a question regarding this. I just watched a video about an "adaptive carbine platform." Many companies are making them, basically turning your handgun into an sbr. One video stated, because theoretically the platform can turn a handgun into a sbr you need the tax stamp. Does that also mean anyone with an ar pistol or ak pistol with extra stocks in their home could theoretically put together a sbr, and would also need tax stamps?

    Then again, they said the tax stamps were excellent, and any fine American is okay with paying for that infringement...
    The buffer mechanism and buffer tube are not the same in AR rifles and pistols and would require more than just adding a butt stock to a pistol. This change accordingly would then reclassify the weapon requiring a tax stamp once the modifications were made or at least prior with the intent to remain legal. Possessing the parts alone would not require application in themselves, but would require the intent to install and the actual act for a crime to have been committed.
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    There is also the possibility under the stamp tax program than once a pistol is modified and tax paid that reversion back to its original condition might not be legal. Something to do because of manufacturing laws didn't quite understand how they actually applied.
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    From: LeDoux, Judyth A. [mailto:[email protected]]
    Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 12:26 PM
    To: Cliff Shaw
    Subject: RE: AR-15 pistols

    Mr. Shaw,
    I forwarded the photographs and information concerning the AR-15 firearm in question to our Firearm Technology Branch. The response is as follows:
    “Assuming that the subject weapon utilizes a “new” receiver; that is; one that was never assembled as part of a shoulder-stocked rifle — then it would only be a GCA firearm under Federal law (non-NFA). However, some state or local restrictions may apply.”
    If you can verify the weapon utilizes a new receiver as stated above, it would be a pistol under the GCA. State and local carry and transportation law and regulations would apply. If the original firearm was manufactured as a shoulder stock rifle and converted to a pistol, it would then meet the definition of a short barrel rifle and be subject to registration under the NFA. I do not believe this is the case here, but you could contact the manufacturer or a local Federal Firearms dealer to ensure it was originally manufactured in its present configuration.
    Please let me know if you have additional questions.
    Regards,
    Judyth A. LeDoux
    Area Supervisor, Cleveland III
    Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
    Crown Center
    5005 Rockside Road
    Independence, OH 44131
    (216) 573-8142 (office)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefighterchen View Post
    It does matter what state you are in too. WA does not allow SBR or SBS, even with a tax stamp. Just last year our infringer against suppressors was lifted. Pretty terrible yea...

    Gun gurus can correct this information, but I thought it was not only any barrel length shorter than 16", but also any rifle with an overall length less than 28"? (ie bullpups).

    Also, I have a question regarding this. I just watched a video about an "adaptive carbine platform." Many companies are making them, basically turning your handgun into an sbr. One video stated, because theoretically the platform can turn a handgun into a sbr you need the tax stamp. Does that also mean anyone with an ar pistol or ak pistol with extra stocks in their home could theoretically put together a sbr, and would also need tax stamps?

    Then again, they said the tax stamps were excellent, and any fine American is okay with paying for that infringement...
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