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    Quote Originally Posted by BC1 View Post
    Oh, he's blasting SYG laws? I guess he forgot the law about not giving guns to Mexican cartels. He was absent the day they taught it's illegal to sell guns to an organized crime syndicates operating in contravention of a neighboring government... in violation of fed law... and international treaty. How many innocent Mexicans have died. What about Brian Terry? His mother is pitiful. She can't get an answer either but I don't see Holder doing anything about that case. And he has the answers too!
    Preach it brother!!!
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  3. Part of this outrageous vitriol is "reverse racist" ignorance.

    I suspect another part involves reverse-racist attempts to sustain the hype long enough to influence the thinking of future jurors in future trials to lower the standards of proof against non-minority defendants in trials involving minority "victims."

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    Quote Originally Posted by tricolordad View Post
    What do you mean we? I voted for Romney.
    So did I but not because I really wanted to. In just about every recent election it has been voting for the lessor of two evils at the national level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nosreme View Post
    Part of this outrageous vitriol is "reverse racist" ignorance.

    I suspect another part involves reverse-racist attempts to sustain the hype long enough to influence the thinking of future jurors in future trials to lower the standards of proof against non-minority defendants in trials involving minority "victims."
    Just like the standards for just about everything else were lowered because one race could not compete on a level playing field. It is about time that liberals admit that giving one group a favored status over another group is also racism. And they are the ones spreading it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r1derbike View Post
    I wonder what Eric Holder would have done if his head was being bounced off the concrete? Oh, wait! I forgot! He has armed security! One of the ivory tower elitists! Throw the bums out of Washington, now! Eric Holder's opinions have the credibility of exactly zero.

    I am a firm believer in two term limits for our present politicians; one in office, the other in prison.
    Good post Rider!! I like your idea for their pension, prison!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by S&W645 View Post
    Just like the standards for just about everything else were lowered because one race could not compete on a level playing field. It is about time that liberals admit that giving one group a favored status over another group is also racism. And they are the ones spreading it.
    I would love to hear them admit that! I also would like Santa Claus to be real. Both are about as likely!
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by Kramer1113 View Post
    I really hope this trial is not the keystone that causes our nation to find itself at war with itself.
    In case you haven't noticed, we're already at war here...

    Sent from my phone (which explains all the typos), using the USACARRY app.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S&W645 View Post
    You left out one thing NM. Sell/smoke and make drugs.The two things in TM's pockets combined with cough syrup make "Lean". Purple drank - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Quite familiar with "Lean" many years as a medic, what killed Trayvon was hate, his.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by nosreme View Post
    Part of this outrageous vitriol is "reverse racist" ignorance.

    I suspect another part involves reverse-racist attempts to sustain the hype long enough to influence the thinking of future jurors in future trials to lower the standards of proof against non-minority defendants in trials involving minority "victims."
    I get you nosreme, but racism is racism, no matter what race(s) of people happen to be on the receiving end, and Trayvon Martin was clearly the racist in this case. A fact that intellectually void supporters of Trayvon will not accept...just like they won't accept that Trayvon was the attacker, using deadly force before he was stopped.

    I propose we change the majority two party system to "thinkers", "idiots", and "thinking idiots".

    This should help the limited information voters select the proper U.S. political hacks next cycle...or maybe not.

    All of the present criminal administration's activities are crafted to keep them in office in 2016; appealing to the ignorance and stupidity of those voters who kept them in office last cycle.

    Sadly, it's going to work. Liars, thieves, charlatans, elitists, and a chicken in every pot Democrats are aligned with the leeches of our society, who comprise a majority of active voters.

    We need to get those apathetic voters off their asses to save America from the present merry band of national criminals.

    The problem with apathy? Nobody gives a sh**.

    I keep thinking back to 2008 when Obama said he was going to fundamentally change America, during his campaign speeches.

    The key piece of rhetoric was intentionally left out; America's demise, one cut at a time. Change you can really believe in!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief1297 View Post
    Could someone please put that the defense of GZ had nothing to do with stand your ground laws on TV so the President and his AG can see that is was self defense that was used in his defense and not SYG!!! I know they get their briefings from MSNBC but at least someone could tell them what SYG means and how it DIDNT relate in this case. I know lawyers have difficulties with the English language with words like "is" and shall not be infringed" and others but get them man a dictionary.
    I've seen several commentators correct both Holder and other commentators on the same panel they're participating on that Zimmerman's was not a SYG law. The only channel I have kept totally away from is MSLSD, but CNN, HLN, Faux News and others have all had at least passing mention of that fact. The problem is that not only is the general public terminally ignorant about it, even the juror who Anderson Cooper interviewed said it was part of the basis for the acquittal in deliberations. She may be right in a weird kind of way, as SYG is basically just part of FL's self defense code sections, but you're absolutely right that SYG itself is not in question when a combatant is pinned under his attacker trying to escape (or retreat, whichever) and getting his culo beat.

    I groaned so loud when I heard that juror say that, that my wife came out of the other room to see if I had hurt myself. I don't think it necessarily hurt the jury's credibility per se, but it sure didn't add to it either.

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