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  1. #11
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    I think the NRA, just like ANY national organization, is about money. I don't care if it is Goodwill, March of Dimes or whatever, your donations pay their leadership first, their administrators second, and a small goes to what ever cause you think you are supporting. In the instance of the NRA, you are paying for lobbyists. These guys grease the politicians with campaign contributions, dinners, whatever in hopes of swaying their vote. This vote should be based on what the constituents want, so be your own lobbyist and talk to your representatives office.
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    I am a conservative (tea party/libertarian leaning), heterosexual, caucasian, anti baby-murder (pro-life), military, gun-toting, weapons permission slip having, NICS check frequenter. Oh, and I post stuff on a gun forum. Can you tell me a list a might NOT be on?
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  3. #12
    I would rather be on the NRA list, than the NSA`s. I have been an NRA member for some time now, and they have done more for gun owners rights and freedoms than anyone else I know of. I have been put on lists since July 1972 when I bought a new Chevy pick up.
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    Sometimes I think the world is going to run out of tinfoil. Please name an organization that teaches classes that doesn't keep class rosters. And getting lists of attendees of gun shows and subscribers to gun magazines isn't building a gun owner database. It's called advertising, and endless companies and other organizations have been doing that very same thing in the very same way for decades. And besides, being on one of those lists doesn't make you a gun owner anyway. And I'm glad the NRA isn't talking about it. It's called respecting our privacy. Does it surprise you that the guy they quote trying to turn NRA privacy into something sinister is an Obama crony? He probably helps Obama defend the NSA too. I'm surprised so many of these conspiracy nuts have enough brains to operate a web site.
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  5. #14
    I am not afraid of the NRA. I am afraid, of the people that are afraid of the NRA.

  6. #15
    I have several long guns. Long guns in my state dont have to be registered. I have never gotten a NRA letter or phone call. As for gun rights advocacy, I like Second Amendment Foundation more than the NRA, since SAF seems to do more of the heavy lifting, NRA just gets the credit.

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    Did you bother to find out anything about Catalist? They were formed by former Deputy Chief of Staff Harold Ickes. Who was on Clinton's payroll. Their entire purpose is to:

    "To provide progressive organizations with the data and services needed to better identify, understand, and communicate with the people they need to persuade and mobilize" and

    "Catalist is committed to using our talents and technology to nurture a vibrant, growing, progressive community, and to working with that community towards a more just, equitable and tolerant America."

    That's from their own website: Catalist | About Us

    So, I guess you swallow whatever you're being fed that is anti-NRA. I think you have little to no understanding of the real topic.

  8. #17
    So the NRA has a "massive" database. Big deal. It's just one more list that I'm on. Quite frankly, I would rather be on the NRA list than anything the government has going.
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  9. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Tbear30 View Post
    I have several long guns. Long guns in my state dont have to be registered. I have never gotten a NRA letter or phone call. As for gun rights advocacy, I like Second Amendment Foundation more than the NRA, since SAF seems to do more of the heavy lifting, NRA just gets the credit.
    I don't mind at all if the NRA gets the credit. It lets the SAF operate out of the media's spotlight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SmokinWill View Post
    Did you bother to find out anything about Catalist?
    Pay careful attention here. I'm going to do something that represents the essence of discussion. I'm going to answer your question. Ready?

    No, I didn't investigate Catalist. I simply responded to what you posted previously, where you said outright that Catalist was OFA, which was completely counter to the quote from the article that you were responding to.

    See that? I answered your question, right? Now answer mine:

    Quote Originally Posted by Blues
    What do you find incredible about what's said just a couple of paragraphs before what you quoted above?

    That database has been built through years of acquiring gun permit registration lists from state and county offices, gathering names of new owners from the thousands of gun safety classes taught by NRA-certified instructors and by buying lists of attendees of gun shows, subscribers to gun magazines, and more, BuzzFeed has learned.
    I believe they (the N R A) are compiling such lists. I have had to unsubscribe from email blasts after every gun show I've attended (which when I say "every," it has been the same promoter and the shows have been held at the same place for about 12 years). I don't accuse them of using that list in a nefarious or illegal way, it's mostly marketing stuff I get and a few ILA alerts here and there, but I know they are compiling it, and have been for many years.

    Now I ask you, if I have determined that a given organization doesn't serve my own best interests, should I be "allowed" to cut all ties with them? Should I be forced to have to constantly be on the lookout for their invasion of my privacy from them specifically? Why should they have my email address if I've asked them over and over again to remove it from their lists?

    Do you think that CCW applicants and students at state-mandated training should at least be informed that taking a class will result in their names and (at least some) contact info being sent to a giant corporation that will be flooding them with marketing materials until they navigate the privacy laws to make them stop?

    And what possible rationale would accept that your state government might be releasing CCW lists to a private organization? Now, on that score, I have no suspicion that my state is doing such a thing, but I don't doubt for a second that many organizations would attempt to gain access to those rolls, whether on the "pro" side of the 2nd Amendment, or not. Do you really doubt that the N R A would accept access to those lists if it was offered to them? And if you don't doubt that, do you doubt that some states have released CCW permission slip rolls? The answer to that should be beyond obvious if you've been paying attention over the last year or so.

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokinWill View Post
    They were formed by former Deputy Chief of Staff Harold Ickes. Who was on Clinton's payroll. Their entire purpose is to:

    "To provide progressive organizations with the data and services needed to better identify, understand, and communicate with the people they need to persuade and mobilize" and

    "Catalist is committed to using our talents and technology to nurture a vibrant, growing, progressive community, and to working with that community towards a more just, equitable and tolerant America."

    That's from their own website: Catalist | About Us

    So, I guess you swallow whatever you're being fed that is anti-NRA. I think you have little to no understanding of the real topic.
    Really, I appreciate the added information, but it doesn't change my own years-long personal experience with having my email address added to their lists without my permission. And unsubscribing from the blasts is not necessarily the same as purging my email addresses from their lists.

    So no, you "guess" wrong. I don't just swallow anything, whether anti-N R A, pro-N R A, anti or pro-government, or anti or pro-me, such as your post is. Plus, I provided you with a link that would help you understand why I've come to the conclusions I have. Maybe it's you who is swallowing a load of BS without consulting any information that would serve to refute it. Ever think of that? Didn't think so.

    Blues
    No one has ever heard me say that I "hate" cops, because I don't. This is why I will never trust one again though: You just never know...

  11. #20
    While an NRA member for many years, I don't necessarily buy everything they're selling. We can all be "purists" if we want but the reality is we NEED someone greasing palms, lobbying, or whatever the hell it takes to keep the antis at bay. It's messy but that's life in the big city. There is power in numbers and the NRA, like it or not, has numbers. And that's what's needed to move Congress-scum in the right direction.

    It also seems to me that, unlike at other times in the past, the NRA held firm and didn't budge a freakin' inch after Sandy Hook and the resultant scream for more gun control. And I was sure they were gonna cave somehow, so that's something.

    At worst: the enemy of my enemy is my ally.
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