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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    Why would you support a company that requests that you not bring your firearm into their store?
    Not a fancy coffee fan and I don't frequent any Starbucks. In answer to your question, as a business owner he could just have easily posted signs saying guns are forbidden. I think this is an attempt to appease the idiots without infringing on our rights.
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    His request is just that, even in open carry states you could ignore his request under the law. I am CC in Texas and will no longer spend my dime will get donuts and coffee elsewhere.

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    In the two threads about Starbucks, I noticed no one brought up something that was glaring me in the face. The fact that in Starbucks' letter, they specifically requested that OCers leave their hardware, but then went out of their way to encourage open carrying by authorized LE. What a friggin' double standard. Now did they mean only LE that is on duty in a uniform? That's not what it said.... here's the clip of that letter:
    For these reasons, today we are respectfully requesting that customers no longer bring firearms into our stores or outdoor seating areas—even in states where “open carry” is permitted—unless they are authorized law enforcement personnel.
    So, if I'm an off-duty copy and feel like open carrying, then this request is not for me... they then encourage me to open carry?

    *shakes head* I will never understand this kind of illogical nonsense.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by whodat2710 View Post
    Not a fancy coffee fan and I don't frequent any Starbucks. In answer to your question, as a business owner he could just have easily posted signs saying guns are forbidden. I think this is an attempt to appease the idiots without infringing on our rights.
    I agree he is just trying to soft sell it. I have never bought any of their high priced junk,and never will, so it sure won't change my carry plans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rifleshooter474 View Post
    I agree he is just trying to soft sell it. I have never bought any of their high priced junk,and never will, so it sure won't change my carry plans.
    You gotta remember, this dude is not a politician - he's a businessman. If he says "NO GUNS!" he loses business. If he says "GUNS ARE GREAT" he loses business. This "request" is, from a business sense, his best option without taking a stand that would offend anyone. I have seen many things in the news recently that really get my hackles up and make me want to chew glass. This is not one of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Outlaw View Post
    Dear Mr. Schultz....

    I understand your concern's and will continue to carry 'concealed' as I have done for many years so as not to upset any of your anti-gun customer's.

    ~Keep it secret, keep it safe~
    Sounds like good advise, this is what I will do also.

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    I don't give my hard earned money to stores that wish to oppose firearms. Especially when there are many other pro law abiding coffee shops in my area.

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  9. Yup, we are sometimes our own worst enemy. The overzealous open-carriers pushed their beliefs into the faces of too many people, too many times and StarBucks took this stance. I find it sad that we did this to ourselves. I know many businesses locally that do not care about CC in their businesses, but do tend to frown on Open-Carry due to the soccer-moms and such that also do their business there. So, maybe this will be a lesson to us all.....common-sense cannot be legislated.

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    This is a lame attempt by the CEO to be so politically correct as to offend no one.

    In actuality, he really thinks that he has managed to pick up a turd by the clean end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BluesStringer View Post
    If I'm not mistaken, it wasn't all that long ago that FL was an OC state. Maybe S&W645 or another knowledgeable Floridian will answer that.

    Bama literally just became a full-on, protected-by-statute OC state. The reason I said "yet(?)" above when thinking about myself carrying that way is that I've been carrying for about 30 out of the last 35 years, all of it concealed. Not something that will definitely never change, but for now, it's just so deeply ingrained within my comfort zone to go concealed. May happen. We'll see.

    My first permission slip was in WA State, where at least two of the more vocal OC'ers on the forum are from, but that was back starting in about '78. I don't recall seeing anyone OC'ing in town there, but I do recall lots of folks carrying openly out where I lived in the sticks (Carnation/Duvall to be exact). It made obvious sense to me out there though, what with the Ferrel Sasquatches runnin' around loose. Anyway, Navy, Bikenut, Firefighterchen and others have convinced me that OC is more a deterrent than an attractant to being targeted first (or otherwise), I just haven't implemented that knowledge yet now that I can. 'Course, I'm home WAY too much due to health issues, so it's not like I'm out and about much these days anyway.

    Anyway, Schultz is a putz! I respect him as a business man, but as an American, well, I wish there were fewer with his ideology and more with mine. Then everything would end up......well......just exactly like they're going to end up anyway! But I wouldn't be as frustrated with my countrymen while waiting for it to happen.

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    Florida was and still is in some instances an OC state. But for the most part it is not. If you are going or returning from a hunting or fishing expedition it is legal to open carry. Also while hunting or fishing. While on private property with the owner's permission you can open carry. Rest of the time, no. And even if you are carrying legal as to the fishing or hunting, you will get hassled if someone reports a MWAG. Also need the fishing or hunting gear and licenses with you. Otherwise, we lost OC under Janet Reno ( 1987 ). We nearly got it back 2 years ago so there still is hope. There is a court case in the Florida Fourth District Court of Appeal which may open it back up to open carry everywhere in the state where carry is legal.
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