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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Outlaw View Post
    I hate to disagree, but I must add my own .02 cents on this topic...
    My own personal experience is the opposite of what you (and others) have stated on this particular subject.

    Case in point;

    I have carried Glock's (almost exclusively) for many years now.
    I moved from California to Texas about 7 years ago and during that move I boxed up some of my fully loaded Glock 19 magazines during the big move and kind of forgot about them as they sat stored inside the taped up box for over 6 years straight.
    When I finally re-opened up the box and saw the two Glock 19 magazines (still fully loaded) I decided to unload them both and check them for any malfunctions. Both magazines ended up being non-reliable imvho. The spring's in both magazine's had clearly weakened over those 6 years of being left fully loaded.
    I have since replaced both spring's and they are now as good as new.
    I always rotate my magazine's every 6 months or so nowaday's and have not had anymore problems since.
    No problem Outlaw. I can't say about springs loaded six years. I usually empty all my additional mags at the range after a year or so just to make sure they are still functioning properly. My carry & HD mags usually see quite a bit more use than my stored mags do and I do rotate them through after about 6mo or a year as well. (I haven't had any problems so far.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CapGun View Post
    Heard this from an instructor from Sig. He asked the Sig metallurgists this question. They told him the constant use wears the spring not being stored compressed. In your case maybe they can be stored for 5 yrs 10mos. not 6 yrs before they get like well used magazines. There was no mention of how long they are stored before they degrade.
    Six yrs, wonder if the ammo was also good.
    I am not an expert metallurgist so I will not even attempt to argue the science of metal degradation with anyone.
    However, I am truthfully sharing my own experience's with you folks on this topic of keeping magazine's loaded for extended period's.
    Please take it for whatever it's worth (no hard feeling's either way).

    As far as the ammo was concerned, Other than a bit of greenish colored residue on the very top round (probably from the leather magazine pouch) the ammo (Federal Hydra-Shok's) worked just fine.
    I fired them all off at the local sooting range with no problem's.

    To answer Blues Stringer's question...

    The cardboard box with the stored magazine's was being kept inside the not-so-properly-insulated-garage.
    So the box (although kept dry) was exposed to both very cold (winter) and hot (summer) temps. for quite awhile.
    I don't know if the varying cold & hot weather fluctuation's had anything to do with the weakening of the spring's, but I guess it probably could have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Outlaw View Post
    I hate to disagree, but I must add my own .02 cents on this topic...
    My own personal experience is the opposite of what you (and others) have stated on this particular subject.

    Case in point;

    I have carried Glock's (almost exclusively) for many years now.
    I moved from California to Texas about 7 years ago and during that move I boxed up some of my fully loaded Glock 19 magazines during the big move and kind of forgot about them as they sat stored inside the taped up box for over 6 years straight.
    When I finally re-opened up the box and saw the two Glock 19 magazines (still fully loaded) I decided to unload them both and check them for any malfunctions. Both magazines ended up being non-reliable imvho. The spring's in both magazine's had clearly weakened over those 6 years of being left fully loaded.
    I have since replaced both spring's and they are now as good as new.
    I always rotate my magazine's every 6 months or so nowaday's and have not had anymore problems since.
    After reading this several times, I've found the underlying issue...

    IT'S A GLOCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!


    LMAO... just fooling with ya Outlaw, heh.
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  5. Here's the deal, in my mind. It doesn't really matter unless you are loading and unloading the magazine constantly without shooting and a valid reason to unload it. Let's say you shoot 10 magazines full of ammo at the range. The magazine should get loaded and emptied 10 times out of necessity, right? Anything you can do to lessen the wear on the magazine spring there? NO. You have to load the magazine to shoot the ammo. Now, for your carry magazine. You have two choices....you can leave it loaded all the time, or you can unload the magazine whenever you are going to store it. If you carry every day the gun should not be stored for more than 8-12 hours and you want it loaded when you carry it. So what is going to do more to weaken the spring in that instance? Flexing the spring by unloading and loading the magazine every night/morning? Or just leaving it loaded overnight, every night. Take a piece of stiff wire, like a wire coat hangar and flex it and leave it flexed. How long does it take to break? Years? Decades? Now take that wire and flex and release it over and over again. Breaks a lot sooner, doesn't it?

    So, I would say that the most harm you can do to a magazine spring is to unload it and reload it without there being a reason to. If it is a range magazine, just toss it in the range bag unloaded at the end of the day, and load it up before the next time you are going to shoot it. If it is a magazine for your carry gun - just leave it loaded, whether or not leaving it loaded is going to weaken the spring - cycling the spring is certainly, 100% going to wear it out faster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Outlaw View Post
    I hate to disagree, but I must add my own .02 cents on this topic...
    My own personal experience is the opposite of what you (and others) have stated on this particular subject.

    Case in point;

    I have carried Glock's (almost exclusively) for many years now.
    I moved from California to Texas about 7 years ago and during that move I boxed up some of my fully loaded Glock 19 magazines during the big move and kind of forgot about them as they sat stored inside the taped up box for over 6 years straight.
    When I finally re-opened up the box and saw the two Glock 19 magazines (still fully loaded) I decided to unload them both and check them for any malfunctions. Both magazines ended up being non-reliable imvho. The spring's in both magazine's had clearly weakened over those 6 years of being left fully loaded.
    I have since replaced both spring's and they are now as good as new.
    I always rotate my magazine's every 6 months or so nowaday's and have not had anymore problems since.
    Outlaw, you know I respect you and your comments on this forum. However, metal weakens more when it is stretched and compressed. Had you been doing that to these mags over those six years, I guarantee they would have given you problems much sooner.

    I have to applaud your comment on rotating magazines. Personally, I take every one of my magazines out when I go to the range. I use a silver Sharpie and mark them #1, #2, etc. This way if I keep getting the same type of problems from the same mag, I know to replace its springs.

    However, I digress... my personal opinion on this topic is to keep extra springs handy. Springs are relatively inexpensive and if you are using your mags like I mentioned at the range you will know immediately if replacing them was the reason for a bad feed.

    From a tactical perspective an empty mag at home is rather useless. A full mag could save your life.

    Therefore Telpinaro, even IF a full mag caused problems with the spring, is it worth it not to store your mags full?


    EDIT: Dude, you had them in your garage? Yes, the differing temperatures most definitely would have had an adverse effect on a compressed spring. The metal will expand and contract which will shorten its effective lifespan. At least your ammo was good. Rock on!
    Last edited by wolf_fire; 09-20-2013 at 05:10 PM. Reason: hadn't read where Outlaw stored them.
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    Firearms writer Patrick Sweeny says to leave them loaded. If you're still skeptical, take a round or two out.

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    From what I have read about modern springs is what many have already said, that it should not be a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by telpinaro View Post
    Had a feeling that would be the case... lot of cool new stuff in the last 15-20 years. Thanks!
    I just dug out a few AR15 mags that had been loaded for 15-20 years and they functioned just fine.
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    Best Video I have found on the subject.
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