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    ammo question

    I saw an ad for factory seconds which indicated blemishes and neck 'Smiles'. What the heck is a neck smile?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FNWylde View Post
    I saw an ad for factory seconds which indicated blemishes and neck 'Smiles'. What the heck is a neck smile?
    I believe this is a neck smile:

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnerbob View Post
    I believe this is a neck smile:

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    Bwahahahahahaha!


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    Glocks have the "Glock Smile", and I am sure that other guns have them as well. When a bullet is fired there is intense pressure created. The pressure is what makes the bullet fly out of the barrel. More pressure = more velocity. That same pressure tries to expand the brass, but the chamber stops it from expanding to the point where it splits. The smile comes from a void or open space in the chamber. This void creates the smile because the brass expands to fill that void.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenhawK View Post
    Glocks have the "Glock Smile", and I am sure that other guns have them as well. When a bullet is fired there is intense pressure created. The pressure is what makes the bullet fly out of the barrel. More pressure = more velocity. That same pressure tries to expand the brass, but the chamber stops it from expanding to the point where it splits. The smile comes from a void or open space in the chamber. This void creates the smile because the brass expands to fill that void.
    I think the OP's question was about unfired ammo. Factory seconds could include ammo that is blemished (discolored) or has small scuff marks in the brass or the bullet from die marks or improper handling but is still considered safe to fire and therefore available at a discounted price from the manufacture.
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  7. I would say it refers to the occasional blemish that results from the bullet base catching the case mouth.

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    Slick, that is correct. Never heard of a neck smile and a google search sure doesn't bring up any useful results. Looking at brass 5.56 @ .245/round which is getting reasonable again, but don't want problem ammo.

    I've shot 5.56 with small verticle cracks in the necks, cracks that look like hang nails, cases with small dents and have never had an issue. So, what is a neck smile, again?

    Thanks, Mobuck, you replied while I was typing!

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    In all my years of shooting and being around shooters, I have never heard the term "neck smile". I have owned and shot Glocks since 1990, and I thought the Glock smile refered to the wear on the barrell caused by the slide cycling.

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    I've been smiling since I bought my first Glock.
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    I am no expert in ammunition and defer to answers already offered. I only use my common sense, when it comes to my firearm and my defense and my safety and that common sense says to me--use quality products by quality mfgrs and nothing else. My expensive firearm manual clearly states that my warranty is VOID if I use ammunition other than that recommended by my mfgr--specifically reloads. I spend big bucks on a firearm and I am not going cheapo on crap to put into it or anything that has a hint of not being perfect.

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