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  1. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by jcreek View Post
    Hornady Tap 00. Slugs are way over kill IMO. 00 Buck has way more stopping power than any handgun that we carry for self defense and it won't go through your next three neighbors houses either. Shotguns, IMO, are best suited to defend a designated choke point in your home. If you designate this choke point in advance you can plan ahead to always know what lies beyond said choke point. Ideally, if you live a two story home you can use it to defend a stairwell. In my case my stairwell faces an exterior wall so all my shots will go into the ground should they pass through the wall (after passing through the intruder).
    I like slugs. They can stop a threat wearing body armor. IIIA might stop pellets. I'm pretty sure it won't stop a slug, but even if it does, the guy's not going to get up very fast.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by trailboss View Post
    I keep my shotgun filled with alternating rounds.
    buckshot, slug, buckshot, slug, buckshot, slug
    Quote Originally Posted by GlassWolf View Post
    I like slugs. They can stop a threat wearing body armor. IIIA might stop pellets. I'm pretty sure it won't stop a slug, but even if it does, the guy's not going to get up very fast.
    The ammo I use in my home defense shotgun depends on the distance I need. In the immediate home from 0 - 25 yards it is 00 buckshot with some slugs in the side saddle in case I need them for longer distance shots, 25 - 100 yards. Based my choice on some data from the Firearms Tactical Institute

    Website - FirearmsTactical.com - Web Site Index and Navigation Center

    Shotgun Home Defense Ammunition Paper - Shotgun Home Defense Ammunition, .357 SIG -- A Solution in Search of a Problem?

  4. #13
    A shotgun would not be a preferred first response choice. Too cumbersome and unhandy to store in an accessible place. First response will generally be a handgun.

    That said. Keep in mind that unless you are using an illegal shotgun, there is not a whole lot of spread at ranges likely in a home invasion. So priority; least collateral damage that stops it, then kill it, then don't chase it. So I would probably load one or two #4 buck, followed by 00. Slugs would be useful for a fleeing intruder; but there would be legal problems. And the first interface is likely to be a handgun round of choice.

  5. #14
    My preferred load is Winchester PDX1-12 Defender also.
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  6. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by alternety View Post
    A shotgun would not be a preferred first response choice. Too cumbersome and unhandy to store in an accessible place. First response will generally be a handgun.

    That said. Keep in mind that unless you are using an illegal shotgun, there is not a whole lot of spread at ranges likely in a home invasion. So priority; least collateral damage that stops it, then kill it, then don't chase it. So I would probably load one or two #4 buck, followed by 00. Slugs would be useful for a fleeing intruder; but there would be legal problems. And the first interface is likely to be a handgun round of choice.
    Good points, but I'm using a KSG, which is a 12ga bullpup design that keeps the entire weapon at 28" if I recall. It also has two feed tubes that can be swapped between with a switch, allowing slugs and shot both at will. As for storage, Nighthawk makes a bedside holder that mounts a rifle or shotgun to the side of the bed mattress, but yeah for tighter control, I also have an AR SBR and AR pistol with reflex/red dot sights.
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    Based on recent replies, use of a shotgun depends on what you intend it to be used for. In my case I will not leave my locked and secure bedroom if someone is roaming around in my house. Everything is insured and replaceable and I am insured but I am not replaceable. If they are better at gun stuff than me, I will not put myself in a position where I am going to die over a big TV etal. It is just my wife and I and no one else in house, which makes a big difference in tactics. I intend to stay in my bedroom after having called 911, opening my garage doors and activating car alarms via remotes for noise and obvious attention of LEOs should they come, and then setting up in a predetermined and secure location that affords me a view of that secure door--and I will do this with my shotgun and its #4 buck, which will easily find its mark, incapacitate at 6 or 7 feet, and not leave a destructive pathway thru my walls as might be the case with 00 buck or slugs. I also have my handgun with its 21 rounds but I surely doubt that will be necessary once the shotgun has done its job. Should the BGs interest become more evident over my door, it will be one of the last things on their mind.

  8. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by GlassWolf View Post
    I like slugs. They can stop a threat wearing body armor. IIIA might stop pellets. I'm pretty sure it won't stop a slug, but even if it does, the guy's not going to get up very fast.
    Sorry to burst your bubble but IIIA is rated to stop slugs, and IIA will stop 00. I do agree with you though, that that person wouldn't be getting up very fast (maybe not at all if it hits em hard enough to collapse a lung)

    However, I don't understand this whole body armor thing. How many criminals wear body armor? Almost none, except high profile bank robbers and some mass shooters. Last time I checked there wasn't really a black market for body armor because in most states anybody can legally buy it. But last time I bought a vest it cost me about $700 for a IIA. Most home invaders don't have that kind of money and when they do it usually goes to drugs not body armor.

  9. #18
    I work armed security in an area where we have at least 3 major gangs coming together. I've not only seen them wear body armor, I've seen a gun fight between a gang, and the state, and county police wherein the gang had a car they'd lined with steel plate that was effective enough that the guys in the car lost the ability to drive the car, but were never killed, while the cops actually ran out of ammunition at one point during the shoot out. yet another time one of the owners of our company assisted the state police when a gang member began shooting at the police' squad car, and my boss pulled his AR out of the trunk of his car to return fire on the gang members, killing at least 2 of them.
    I wear a Goldflex IIIA concealable vest myself when I'm out and about in certain parts of town.
    Vests are dirt cheap. Mine was a good one and cost about the same as yours with the carrier and trauma plates, but old police vests can be had for $150-300 or so these days on eBay and from police gear shops. Police replace their vests when they reach their 5 year lifecycle, then even if the vests were never used, they're sold off and replaced by the departments, so those old vests sell cheaply to the public.
    I was aware that IIIA was rated for 00 buck, however wasn't sure on slugs, as per:
    BulletProofME.com Body Armor - Ballistic Protection Levels
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  10. I have a problem with that article, there is no such thing as #5 bucksot, #4 is the smallest with a diameter of .24, the minimum considered to be adequate for deer.

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  11. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by kelcarry View Post
    #4 buck gives you more than enough to stop anyone with a "coverage spray" of pellets that do not require exact aim and use of the shotgun
    This is nonsense. In the average room - 20-25'- a shot column will average less than 4" spread. A defensive use of a 12 ga. riot gun will miss the target more often than not, if exact aim is not used.
    War to the Knife, Knife to the hilt.
    If we don't want to live in a trashy area, we all have to be willing to help pick up the trash.

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