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    If she was carrying concealed I'm wondering how anyone there at the soccer game knew it? Did she broadcast it? Did it print? No one should know that anyone else is carrying. That's how we keep this from happening, correct?

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    A few days after receiving Foundling’s e-mail, Hain received a letter from county Sheriff Mike DeLeo, the local authority in charge of issuing gun licenses. A parent of another child contacted him about Hain.

    In response, DeLeo revoked her concealed-weapons permit under a statute of the Pennsylvania Uniform Firearms Act that denies permits to any “individual whose character and reputation is such that the individual would be likely to act in a dangerous manner to public safety.”
    “There is a provision of the Pennsylvania Constitution that specifically prohibits any government agency from interfering with the right of an individual to openly carry a firearm,” he said. “He’s basically punishing her for doing something she is permitted by law to do.”
    DeLeo said he was well aware of the irony that his revocation of Hain’s permit to conceal a weapon will actually force her to wear it openly if she chooses to carry her firearm. He said he wanted to bring the matter to the public’s attention, but he did not have the right to take away her gun, so revoking the permit was his only option.
    “I felt some action was needed, and I do believe that something like this should be brought to the public’s attention so the public is aware of what took place,” he said. “The public has the right to complain about the issue, and if the Legislature wants to do something, then so be it.”
    LOL wow all of this is BULL ****.. You got some Judge trying to bully this lady into doing away with her gun. Then you got the NUMB NUTS OF A Sheriff ( This is like the one and only time you will ever hear me talk bad about the police) who is like i want to jump on the van wagon too. So he is like i cant do any thing, Oh wait i know i will pull her permit that will teach her. But yet Check this like i said before IF THIS HAD BEEN A COP?on or off duty who was watching is sons game. Nothing would have happened he would have gotten a ( wow your son played great today, have a nice night see you next game) but because she is not LEO she must be one of the Missing 911 hijacker's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdcleanfun View Post
    If she was carrying concealed I'm wondering how anyone there at the soccer game knew it? Did she broadcast it? Did it print? No one should know that anyone else is carrying. That's how we keep this from happening, correct?
    She was not Carrying Concealed she was using her right to open carry.. As she goes on to say in the link Glock fan posted, She Open carry's all the time.. So again not having her permit is not really going to hurt her. I still think the court will give it back to her. As she was not waving it around yelling and handing it out to all the five year old's to dry fire. She was just standing there whats more is she even moved to the other side of the field when asked to do so.
    Last edited by S&WM&P40; 09-25-2008 at 11:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S&WM&P40 View Post
    She was not Carrying Concealed she was using her right to open carry.. As she goes on to say in the link Glock fan posted, She Open carry's all the time.. So again not having her permit is not really going to hurt her. I still think the court will give it back to her. As she was not waving it around yelling and handing it out to all the five year old's to dry fire. She was just standing there whats more is she even moved to the other side of the field when asked to do so.
    I'm hoping the presiding judge isn't as brainless as the one who started the whole situation in the first place.

    This can be argued several different ways. Good thing is that she's still able to carry her firearm (Let's stop using the "W" word. At this point it might be best to do our best to defuse this situation. IMHO, using the word won't help.)

    I don't agree on OC unless it's absolutely necessary (as in certain states where one must OC if they don't have a CC license). I do feel that it's a personal choice left up to the individual firearm owner. I applaud this lady for exercising her rights knowing that it may cost her some time and money. All it takes is one IDIOT to call the police and say "there's a man/woman walking around with a gun". At this point, the police must respond. Regardless of if you get charged or not, should the police find you, I'm sure they'll stop you and ask a few questions to ensure that you're lawfully in possession of the firearm. (This will cost you time.)

    It's sad that the situation got to this point. I would have thought that the Sheriff would have had more sense in enforcing the law. Being that the lady was clearly not in violation of the law (hence no "Chanel bracelets"), how can the Sheriff interpret her behavior as being "bad"? In this case, win or lose, Ms. Hain will come out a loser.


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    good for her for exercising her rights. if she does not get back her permit I will be surprised
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by Glock Fan View Post
    Doesn't sound like it was at/near a school. Here's link to another article. Pistol-packiní soccer mama brings on heat - Lebanon Daily News There's a photo of the lady with her holstered Glock 26. It's a lengthy article, so I will refrain from posting the contents here.

    Here's the photo of Meleanie Hain with her holstered Glock 26




    Folks need to learn to mind their own business and allow law abiding citizens to exercise their rights. Would things have been different if she was dressed up in a tactical jumpsuit, gun belt and shiny "metal oval" hanging from a chain around her neck?



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    You bet things would have been different if she were wearing that shiny "metal oval". Looks like they went a little too far with this one..

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    Hmm, me personally, I would have kept my weapon concealed....that's just me. Exercising your rights is one thing but open carry at ANY game where there are children playing You know you're just asking for ATTENTION. I live in NH and my weapon is concealed at my childrens games. I do not want ATTENTION drawn to Me. I know I have the RIGHT to carry it in the open but come on now, you do need to use better judgement. Was it really neccessary to have a weapon exposed at a childrens game OR Any game where you know there will be mommies watching their little darlings playing? Overall, what She was doing was Her right. Don't get me wrong, but a little more better judgement would have been better.........My opinion. On the other hand, the thingy with the officer and other officails pulling Her permit, I would get ahold of Mr.Lawyer and straighten that one out! That's a no-no.
    Then again, as someone else mentioned on here............there's more to the story, need ALL the facts.
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    This sounds like something that would be done in a may issue people's republic, not a shall issue state with a reputation for being reasonably gun friendly. I'd fight this if I were her.

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    Lets see how this plays out

    If this lady was not breaking the law and her only offense was a few complaints for something being done legally...the Sheriff may be in for a world of hurt legally.

    If their was a legal grounds for what was done lets see about repealing some bad legislation.
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    Thanks for the longer article. Sounds like she's in her rights. I personally carry concealed to my kids' games, but that's just my preference. Carrying a firearm to a soccer game in no way demonstrates that she is an “individual whose character and reputation is such that the individual would be likely to act in a dangerous manner to public safety.” On the contrary, I think it shows her concern for the safety of those around her.

    Had some wacko intent on doing harm come to the soccer field (and you know there are those who prey on children, especially where they don't think people will have means of self defense), those same parents would be viewing her a little differently now.

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