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    Tatted, while I normally regard what you post as quite good and well-rooted in procedure, I must take exception to your evaluation of the sound of a racking shotgun. I used to believe that way, also. I was on a call one time where a guy was tearing up an apartment. Just as we pulled up, he ran out of the apartment and across a field. I bailed out of the right side of the patrol car with the 12 gauge, yeled, "Halt! Sheriff's Department,' As i racked a round into the chamber. The guy left six feet of skid marks in the dirt as he sllid to a stop, threw his hands in the air and flopped onto his face. I have been reading recently many experts in the field of tactical weaponry that recommend keeping the shotgun fully stocked, which means one in the chamber. Their position is that the sound of a shotgun being charged does not have the magical ability to make a BG wet his pants and become a blubbering mass of jel-o While the sound of a shotgun being racked was recognized by virtually all the subjects in a test of peoples' recognition of sounds, people of all ages and experience levels recognized the shotgun, but that does not necessarily translate to a deterent. I have seen people who were high on drugs that would probably not even realize that a gun had been fired at him, let alone charged. Today, I would prefer to have five rounds in my shotgun than four, or as many as the longest magazine I could get, plus one in the tube.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wuzfuz View Post
    Tatted, while I normally regard what you post as quite good and well-rooted in procedure, I must take exception to your evaluation of the sound of a racking shotgun. I used to believe that way, also. I was on a call one time where a guy was tearing up an apartment. Just as we pulled up, he ran out of the apartment and across a field. I bailed out of the right side of the patrol car with the 12 gauge, yeled, "Halt! Sheriff's Department,' As i racked a round into the chamber. The guy left six feet of skid marks in the dirt as he sllid to a stop, threw his hands in the air and flopped onto his face. I have been reading recently many experts in the field of tactical weaponry that recommend keeping the shotgun fully stocked, which means one in the chamber. Their position is that the sound of a shotgun being charged does not have the magical ability to make a BG wet his pants and become a blubbering mass of jel-o While the sound of a shotgun being racked was recognized by virtually all the subjects in a test of peoples' recognition of sounds, people of all ages and experience levels recognized the shotgun, but that does not necessarily translate to a deterent. I have seen people who were high on drugs that would probably not even realize that a gun had been fired at him, let alone charged. Today, I would prefer to have five rounds in my shotgun than four, or as many as the longest magazine I could get, plus one in the tube.
    I disagree. The sound of a shotgun being racked lets them know that the person standing a few feet away from them has a weapon that is loaded and ready to go. That's how I've always done it, and that's how I'll continue to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tattedupboy View Post
    I disagree. The sound of a shotgun being racked lets them know that the person standing a few feet away from them has a weapon that is loaded and ready to go. That's how I've always done it, and that's how I'll continue to do it.
    I agree 115%

    When you’re a LEO and you rack a shell, the BG might not stop because you are the law and he’s already planned to run. Might not always be the case, however how many times does a LEO yell “Stop or I’ll shoot” or something along those lines. I highly doubt all BG’s will stop and drop.

    However, in a home invasion, a BG who is not necessarily thinking the homeowner is armed, this will be a deterrent. If a BG is coming up the stairs of a home and hears the rack in the room, I seriously believe that he will wet his pants and turn right back around. If he doesn't, then that’s his problem right then and there. That sound of the rack might be all that is needed to prevent a bad situation from turning into an even worse situation. I agree with Tatted 115%
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    Now he uses them to keep his kids out. I like my four legged meat grinder.Even though our geese were better.


    Grew up with guineas in the yard. I don't think anything can slip by them. Best alarm system around.

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    I like the Sure Set Mount for my Black Hawk Holster. It is mounted on the back of the headboard.
    When the Grand Kids are around, My weapons is back in the safe. That keeps the wiphe happy too...

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    I keep my Sig P228 in my ThunderWear, ready for action at a moment's notice. :)

    Actually, we have a six year old in the house and even though she knows gun safety and already has two of her own, my 228 is actually in a small gunsafe right under my night stand. I can access the weapon and flashlight in about 15 seconds when necessary.

    I would not keep a loaded weapon under my pillow for fear of havnig a dream that became all too real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by capo2186 View Post
    I agree 115%

    When you’re a LEO and you rack a shell, the BG might not stop because you are the law and he’s already planned to run. Might not always be the case, however how many times does a LEO yell “Stop or I’ll shoot” or something along those lines. I highly doubt all BG’s will stop and drop.

    However, in a home invasion, a BG who is not necessarily thinking the homeowner is armed, this will be a deterrent. If a BG is coming up the stairs of a home and hears the rack in the room, I seriously believe that he will wet his pants and turn right back around. If he doesn't, then that’s his problem right then and there. That sound of the rack might be all that is needed to prevent a bad situation from turning into an even worse situation. I agree with Tatted 115%
    Is it better to have a home defense shotgun set up to first make sound effects, or to fire off a round? I keep one in the tube, if for no other reasons than to keep my options open. You might not have time to pump the foregrip, or you might not be able to after the attacker gets you first with a surprise shot. Don't just assume that you're going to get that advantageous, ideal position gift-wrapped and delivered. If someone has already committed to breaking into your home, they've crossed a line that signals their interest in getting into a serious fight.

    If you're in a situation where noise is going to be to your disadvantage, then you might be in deep if you have to go making that impressive-but-useless racking noise. It's not going to save you if the attacker fires first.

    If you do want to take a less deadly approach and make the noise, you can always hold the release down and eject an unfired shell, and load another. It won't affect your magazine capacity.
    Last edited by toreskha; 12-10-2008 at 08:51 PM.
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    If we're home, I will know if someone approaches the house. It will not be a surprise. The single second it takes to rack the slide will not be relevant to the outcome. I'm much more comfortable carrying a 1911 around the house than a shotgun.
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    Exclamation When I was stationed in UTAH

    A buddy of mine had his apartment broken into. He was at home and the perp broke the bathroom window out during his illegal entry. My friend racked a shell into his 870 and the perp bailed out the same window he entered from leaving a trail of blood and making the guy easy to catch at the hospital ER.
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    Under the pillow is a Bad Idea. Mine is Hot w/ Saftey On and is very close to me locked in the Safe. I have practiced in the dark opening the Safe and getting in position with the firearm (unloaded). Member on here mentioned the light thingy he purchased. Well, I just purchased 7 of them awhile ago. It will be perfect for all my Safes and I may give the others out to my friends as xmas gifts for their setups.
    (All the above are MY opinions/suggestions ONLY....AND, I like to bust ball's, it's called having a sense of humor. In other words, no intent to offend anyone, so get over it)

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