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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueshell View Post
    If you only have 4 years experience then sit down.

    Mailing a firearm is identical in all ways but 2, to mailing anything else.

    1: You have to use a private service like UPS or FedEx, and 2: you have to mail it to your local FFL, not your house.
    How many years of experience do you have flying with a firearm?

    I can mail a Christmas present from my house with a stamp on a card, if it's any more complicated than that to mail a firearm you're wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueshell View Post
    If you only have 4 years experience then sit down.

    Mailing a firearm is identical in all ways but 2, to mailing anything else.

    1: You have to use a private service like UPS or FedEx, and 2: you have to mail it to your local FFL, not your house.
    You should apply strict scrutiny to the dictionary definition of "mail" and just accept that you don't use UPS or FedEx to "mail" anything. The #1 definition is, "letters, packages, etc., that are sent or delivered by means of the postal system, ie: 'Storms delayed delivery of the mail.'" None of the definitions contemplate any private enterprise as being involved with "mail." Sorry, but really, get over it, you've just made another in a long line of mistakes.

    I now predict a days or weeks-long obsessive series of posts trying to manipulate the English language to make "mail" fit within the types of shipments that a private person might hire a private shipping company to transport to its final destination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueshell View Post
    And he's wrong on top of it. Mailing a firearm is no more complicated than mailing a Christmas presant.
    Please point out where I was wrong. Blues already pointed out where you are wrong.

    Mailing != shipping. Christmas cards don't involve an FFL, an ATF 4473, a background check, a transfer fee and the need to be a resident in the state you are taking possession of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilguy View Post
    This from ATF, revised for this year.

    May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier?

    A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm or ammunition, prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm and requires obtaining written acknowledgement of receipt.

    [18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a)(5), 922(e) and (f); 27 CFR 478.30 and 478.31]

    So, this means I could ship my hand gun to my self and receive it when I get home? I'm in Florida but hold residence in Illinois, does the fact I'm in Florida negate this procedure?
    If FedEx or UPS are willing to directly ship it from Florida to an Illinois FFL, yes. It is my understanding that picking it up in Illinois is a transfer across state lines, requiring an ATF 7743, a background check and a transfer fee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefighterchen View Post
    How many years of experience do you have flying with a firearm?

    I can mail a Christmas present from my house with a stamp on a card, if it's any more complicated than that to mail a firearm you're wrong.
    If you want to be literal about it then you can send a firearm directly to you're house, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueshell View Post
    If you want to be literal about it then you can send a firearm directly to you're house, too.
    Oh, I see, you meant the non literal "identical" and "complicated" where it works when you use your own definition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefighterchen View Post
    How many years of experience do you have flying with a firearm?
    I haven't said anything about flying with a firearm.

    I only spoke of mailing one.

    You said I was wrong. But absolutely nothing prevents you from just mailing your own gun back to yourself at your own house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BluesStringer View Post
    You should apply strict scrutiny to the dictionary definition of "mail"
    Strict Scrutiny is applied to rights, not mail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefighterchen View Post
    Oh, I see, you meant the non literal "identical" and "complicated" where it works when you use your own definition.

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    Uh no I meant you are able to just pack up your gun and send it to youre house. You're not allowed to, but nothing prevents you. It doesn't have to be any more complicated than that. Dealing with FFLs and paying fees is a choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueshell View Post
    I haven't said anything about flying with a firearm.

    I only spoke of mailing one.

    You said I was wrong. But absolutely nothing prevents you from just mailing your own gun back to yourself at your own house.
    Then you probably shouldn't quote my experience of flying, on a post about flying, completely separate of the one saying your wrong. I see you don't come close to the experience I have flying with firearms, so please take your own advice, sit down you have nothing to provide in this thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Blueshell View Post
    Uh no I meant you are able to just pack up your gun and send it to youre house. You're not allowed to, but nothing prevents you. It doesn't have to be any more complicated than that. Dealing with FFLs and paying fees is a choice.
    You're still in the wrong. Both in and out of the forum rules.

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