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  1. #51
    I just googled this.

    The USN only uses USMC D/I's at their office schools.

    Not for the enlisted's.

    Thanks.

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  3. Snap! Ya'll took my question and went for quite a run with it. Thanks?

  4. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by NorCalSamurai View Post
    Hello, new to forums here so I apologize upfront if this is a ridiculous question. Question is is there any risk to a J Frame in the appendix in a quality holster. I have a slight phobia of a bullet spontaneously going off. Thank you.
    Back on topic.

    There is always an inherent risk when handling a loaded firearm. Can it go off on its own? Yes, due to its mechanical nature. But, the percentage of accidental discharges are very, very low. Most discharges are of the negligent kind (taking human intervention -- finger on the trigger, poor holstering skills, modified safeties, etc.).

    So what is the remedy? Proper training with good equipment while practicing the redundant safety rules. Appendix Carry: Practice drawing with an unloaded gun to start with until you feel comfortable with the procedure and are doing it without pointing the gun to yourself or placing your finger on the trigger. Remove your holster before re-holstering and then place both items back into the pants.

    Please remember that any form of carry can be dangerous if done improperly.

    I hope this helps you friend.

  5. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by RJT CCW View Post
    Back on topic.

    There is always an inherent risk when handling a loaded firearm. Can it go off on its own? Yes, due to its mechanical nature. But, the percentage of accidental discharges are very, very low. Most discharges are of the negligent kind (taking human intervention -- finger on the trigger, poor holstering skills, modified safeties, etc.).

    So what is the remedy? Proper training with good equipment while practicing the redundant safety rules. Appendix Carry: Practice drawing with an unloaded gun to start with until you feel comfortable with the procedure and are doing it without pointing the gun to yourself or placing your finger on the trigger. Remove your holster before re-holstering and then place both items back into the pants.

    Please remember that any form of carry can be dangerous if done improperly.

    I hope this helps you friend.
    Good list !!

    You left off "poor firearm design" however.

    Glocks have poor design.

    They are designed to have soft "double action" like triggers for their striker mechanisms.

    This is why they are easy to set off and shoot you in the leg.

    With any other pistol or revolver you can ensure that a safety is engaged to prevent an accidental discharge.

    With a revolver you can keep the first 2 cylinder chambers empty.

    With a 1911A1 or some such derivative (like my CZ), you can use condition 1 or 2.

    But with a Glock there is no such thing as (Cooper's) condition 1 or 2. There is only condition 0 or 3.

    The Glock safety is passive and weak.

    If I owned a Glock (which I never would), I would carry it in condition 3 only -- magazine loaded but chamber empty.

    Then you can't shoot yourself.

    Even so however, Glock-design or 1911A1-design, the very best thing is to ensure that your gun (pistol or revolver) is not pointing at your body parts while in the holster (or any other time).

    Rule #1 -- Never point a gun whether loaded or unloaded at anything or anyone that you don't intend to kill (including yourself -- this includes your balls too).

  6. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by HKS View Post
    Good list !!

    You left off "poor firearm design" however.

    Glocks have poor design.

    They are designed to have soft "double action" like triggers.

    This is why they tend to go off and shoot you in the leg.
    Thank you and point taken, but not agreed with. Sir, all guns have the potential to "go off and shoot you in the leg" when they are improperly handled.

    Look up the video of Tex Grebner on Youtube. His shot to the leg was from a 1911. Any gun, if mishandled, can cause damage.

  7. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by NorCalSamurai View Post
    Snap! Ya'll took my question and went for quite a run with it. Thanks?
    Yup we love talking about guns and ammo.

    And we get way off topic onto tangents too.

    Exactly!

  8. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by RJT CCW View Post
    Thank you and point taken, but not agreed with. Sir, all guns have the potential to "go off and shoot you in the leg" when they are improperly handled.

    Look up the video of Tex Grebner on Youtube. His shot to the leg was from a 1911. Any gun, if mishandled, can cause damage.
    The biggest flaw in the 1911A1's is the lack of a spring safety firing pin.

    So anytime you have a chambered round, you could end up with an unintended discharge.

    Some of the newer 1911A1 designs like the CZ's have spring safeties on the firing pin.

    I liked my trusty 1911A1 during military/naval service, but I love my CZ more.

    I would hate to have a Glock. I would not carry it chambered.

    The external open carry holsters of the 1911A1's used by the armed forces would direct an unintended discharge away from you.

    So 1911A1's are not great for concealed carry, unless you keep the chamber empty as well.

  9. #58
    My point is that any mishandled gun can cause a problem. To vilify one type of gun or another due to the operators poor handling skills is a disservice to the firearms community.

    It is your choice on what you carry and how you carry it and bravo for doing so.

  10. #59
    I would never recommend a Glock of any kind to anyone.

    I know they are very popular however.

    These guns like the 1911A1's before them were designed for open carry not concealed.

    You need a really safe and reliable gun for concealed carry. And a Glock is simply not designed for that.

    I don't care if the truth hurts anybody.

    But if you DO have a Glock or a 1911A1 just don't carry it pointing at your nut sack or guts. That's my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HKS View Post
    . . .

    With a revolver you can keep the first 2 cylinder chambers empty....
    Oh, great. I can go from 5 bullets down to 3 for self defense.

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