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    Back in 1974 our local Liquor Store had a Bianchi Holster Rack that was well stocked. It was a circular rack with holsters hanging all the way around it. I started carrying handguns in Bianchi Leather Holsters. I still have several of my original ones from the 1970's for guns like the 4" K Frame S&W, 4" N Frame S&W and 5" 1911. I have an N Frame Cross Draw, Cyclone, and a X15 for 6.5" N S&W's. Several different guns have been used in the holsters, but I have kept these holsters all these years, and I have added to them over the years. To me a high quality holster for my handguns is a requirement.

    I am around lots of people who carry handguns today. I am continually surprised at how many people carry in low quality, sloppy fit nylon holsters. Their idea of a good holster would be a formed plastic one. I realize the economy makes spare dollars pretty scarce. I would think a $600 handgun would rate a quality, made to fit holster.

    What are your thoughts and observations on this?

    Bob R

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    I've had a couple of X-15s myself. The holster itself is decent, maybe better'n decent even, but not having any way to carry extra mags (or speed loaders as the case may be) in the same rig is a deficiency that I just decided I couldn't live with. I prefer leather, especially in a shoulder rig, so I went to a variation of the original Jackass rig that was being imported from Russia back maybe 10 years ago now. It was ridiculously cheap, but very well-made nonetheless, so I don't regret the purchase at all. Still use it when I carry concealed (mostly only when I dip 30 miles South into Florida), but open carry the overwhelming majority of the time nowadays.

    I also use a Bianchi "Snaplok" belt holster at times. It's also leather.

    I have a Bianchi military-style holster that attaches to a drop-leg platform, the model number of which I don't recall, but I don't use it very often unless it's so cold that I have to wear a longer heavy jacket that it needs to drop below in order to open carry it, which was the case several days over the last couple of weeks, but which generally is very rare around here (far-Southeastern corner of AL). That one is made out of canvas or Denier or whatever, but definitely doesn't fall into the category of a low-quality, sloppy-fit nylon holster. It just ain't leather.

    I also have hybrid IWB holsters made by a couple of other manufacturers, as well as a couple of full-on Kydex belt holsters. The Snaplok gets the most use I reckon, but they all get used here and there depending on what I need to wear when leaving the homestead. Lightweight dress pants make one of the hybrids a better choice, but blue jeans with a heavy gun belt is my usual wardrobe choice, and the Snaplok works fine most of the time. The Jackass knock-off for when I have to cover up, but it's still cool enough that being married to a cover garment won't turn me into a walking talking puddle of sweat.

    It's a pretty much to each his own consideration for me. I don't think the price of the gun dictates what it "rates" to be honest. It's what my own needs, wants and desires "rate" that I take into consideration. Inanimate objects rate nothing from me. If someone were to ask me what they should get, I definitely would not recommend anything with a sloppy fit, no matter who's maker's mark is on it, but folks who ask are free to disregard my recommendations as they see fit, so it's not something I think about much. Bianchi is cool with me though, as are several other makes.

    Blues
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    I have Galco CMs (80$ each?) fit for my M&P 9 and my Glock 19 and a 120$ Kramer custom for my 4006 and to be truthful I prefer the Galcos. The leather on the Galco feels thicker to me.

    Kramer gets the nod for customer service though. They actually called me before they boned the holster to ask if I carried with the safety on or off (TDA) so they could bone it for that.

    I carry my reloads in the same Bianchi triple threat(20$?) magazine pouch I wore at work and my Multitool in the same Bianchi Accumold (20$?) I wore at work.

    I don't like Kydex and I don't like cheap one size (kinda) fits all holsters. The Kydex thing is just my preference. There's nothing wrong with a quality Kydex holster I just don't like them. I absolutely despise those cheap Uncle Mike's clip on IWBs.

    JMO but if you're going to open carry you need at least a level 2 retention holster and any holster you use should be stiff enough that you can reholster with one hand without looking if necessary.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    I have Galco CMs (80$ each?) fit for my M&P 9 and my Glock 19 and a 120$ Kramer custom for my 4006 and to be truthful I prefer the Galcos. The leather on the Galco feels thicker to me.

    Kramer gets the nod for customer service though. They actually called me before they boned the holster to ask if I carried with the safety on or off (TDA) so they could bone it for that.

    I carry my reloads in the same Bianchi triple threat(20$?) magazine pouch I wore at work and my Multitool in the same Bianchi Accumold (20$?) I wore at work.

    I don't like Kydex and I don't like cheap one size (kinda) fits all holsters. The Kydex thing is just my preference. There's nothing wrong with a quality Kydex holster I just don't like them. I absolutely despise those cheap Uncle Mike's clip on IWBs.

    JMO but if you're going to open carry you need at least a level 2 retention holster and any holster you use should be stiff enough that you can reholster with one hand without looking if necessary.
    It's all personal preference and a well made holster will be more than enough passive retention when carrying concealed. I do have a level 2 for my G22 as it has migrated from its habitat on a couple of occasions (using the head) while using a passive holster but I don't EDC it. If you're a LEO you'll likely want or be required to have an additional level of retention.

    If you've been around firearms long enough and especially CC then you'll likely have a few holsters for each firearm and they seem to multiply like rabbits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niceshootintex View Post
    It's all personal preference and a well made holster will be more than enough passive retention when carrying concealed.
    I didn't say anything about needing retention for concealed carry

    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    JMO but if you're going to open carry you need at least a level 2 retention holster

    Quote Originally Posted by niceshootintex View Post
    If you've been around firearms long enough and especially CC then you'll likely have a few holsters for each firearm and they seem to multiply like rabbits.
    It's been my experience that the longer I've been around firearms the fewer holsters I have. I have 4 handguns and 6 holsters.
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    I didn't say anything about needing retention for concealed carry






    It's been my experience that the longer I've been around firearms the fewer holsters I have. I have 4 handguns and 6 holsters.
    I was speaking to various outlooks and points on retention overall. That was it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niceshootintex View Post
    I was speaking to various outlooks and points on retention overall. That was it.
    You quoted me so I assumed you were replying to me
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  9. Negative. Just drafting on your retention points you made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eidolon View Post
    JMO but if you're going to open carry you need at least a level 2 retention holster and any holster you use should be stiff enough that you can reholster with one hand without looking if necessary.
    I know how concerned for my safety you are, so just to put your mind at ease, both the Bianchi Snaplok and military-style holsters I referred to for open carry, are indeed Level II. LOL
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    Blues, the Galcos and the one Kydex that I use are also level II. And they are both IWB types. The retention straps keep the firearms from falling out when you bend over as my firearms are heavy and would slide out of most other types.
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