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  1. #21
    that is freakin rediculous! I feel bad for that guy who was obviously hiding nothing... but in hiding nothing look what happened to him.. I hope he gets the support he needs to show these idiots that this is still america and there are many willing to fight to keep it that way.
    You can have my freedom as soon as I'm done with it!!!

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  3. You guys are seeming to miss the point .. They Guy was a green card holder ... Had 3 Different ID's on him from 2 different states .... and He has no Permit to own a gun although he had 3 of them in his house

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    Ok I get the hordeing of Ammo thing, but come on think a minute here.So there is not limit you can own. Why in the world does he need to tote around 10,000 rounds. That's like putting a sign on your back that say's KICK ME! leave it at home, safe from the "people" who want to do this sort of thing to him, and take what you need to the range when you need it, jesus use your head. This moron was aking for trouble, and guess what, he got it!
    "The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms . . ."
    - SAMUEL ADAMS

  5. #24
    Here's my beef...

    For Starters...

    1. The Government KNEW how many rounds of ammunition this guy had in his possession...
    2. The Government clear intrusion here Implies that there is some kind of limit on the number of rounds you can have in your possession.
    3. Truck Drivers have had multiple drivers licenses for decades.
    4. The guy had yet to commit any felony other than the implied felony which is in fact a de facto Second Amendment Infringement...
    5. The Revolutionary War was started IN Lexington & Concord for damm near the SAME FRICKING REASON.
    6. You cannot arrest somebody because you THINK they might do something illegal.

    Said it before, I will say it again 10,000-20,000 rounds is nothing, if for instance, you follow your firearm instructors recommendation to fire at least 200 rounds a month through every firearm you wish to remain proficient with...

    Then when we take Black Tuesday January 20th, 2009 into consideration, and the inauguration of the most anti-gun candidate to every take the Presidency and only Second to now deceased Ted Kennedy in his rabidness for anti-second amendment measures in the Senate...
    So with the threat of not being able to buy ammo again or at a affordable price, what does the guy/gal with one firearm need to get them though Gun Ban Obama & Company at minimum?

    200 rounds a month
    2,400 rounds a year
    9,600 a term
    19,200 rounds to get one through the worse case scenario of a two term Obummer Presidency (Usurpation)

    GET IT YET?

    "The people never give up their liberties, but under some delusion." - Edmund Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Hat View Post
    I'm glad I don't live there or I'd be in a lot of trouble! What a crock.
    You better be glad you don't live in NYC! Anymore than 250 rounds will land you in jail!!

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    MA... I live here and often wonder why. The cradle of freedom and now they work so hard to take it away... As soon as I'm ready, South of the Mason/Dixon Line...YEEEEE HAAAAAA....
    You can give peace a chance alright..

    I'll seek cover in case it goes badly..

  8. Quote Originally Posted by usvet View Post
    Ok I get the hordeing of Ammo thing, but come on think a minute here.So there is not limit you can own. Why in the world does he need to tote around 10,000 rounds. That's like putting a sign on your back that say's KICK ME! leave it at home, safe from the "people" who want to do this sort of thing to him, and take what you need to the range when you need it, jesus use your head. This moron was aking for trouble, and guess what, he got it!


    WHat pisses me off is he was not a Citizen of the UNITED STATES ... he had 2 illegal Identifications on him ... He had 3 Illegal guns in his house .... and he was buying up ammo they busted him with 10k rounds in his car not to mention the other 50000 at his house the three illegal guns and the 20000 in cash .... and He wasnt a citizen

  9. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by JUSTSTARTING View Post
    WHat pisses me off is he was not a Citizen of the UNITED STATES ... he had 2 illegal Identifications on him ... He had 3 Illegal guns in his house .... and he was buying up ammo they busted him with 10k rounds in his car not to mention the other 50000 at his house the three illegal guns and the 20000 in cash .... and He wasnt a citizen
    Come on now...

    Lets not twist this into something its not...

    I have no patience for illegal alien activities, but this guy was here on the up and up...

    The Constitution and the Law treats legal resident aliens the same as citizens...

    Read the Article and the information...

    He had multiple legal id's on him from other states, not a crime in itself, truck drivers have been doing it for decades...

    All his guns in his house and possession were legally obtained...

    He had a passport and he was a Legal Immigrant, AKA: A Resident Alien, whom was scheduled to become a citizen days from when he was arrested...

    Any law that says its criminal activity to keep large amounts of cash and ammo in your possession is purely unconstitutional...

    As his Lawyer states, no crime has been committed...

    And we all whether Massachusetts residents or not should be outraged and be writing our Congressman and Senators and the media about this...

    This is unacceptable, and any such laws should be repealed immediately

    Common... tracking & arresting people over the amount of ammo and or cash they have in their possession?

    What next, 20,000 bottles of water in your basement gets you pinched to?

    Do we really want to condone and continue to allow these types of Continuing Activities to occur?

    At minimum it violates the 2nd, 4th and 14th amendments...

    The Fourth Amendment...
    "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

    They cannot track this kind of activity without a Warrant, which they did not have...

    It violates the Second Amendment, because it does not say "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" Except...

    It violates the Fourteenth Amendment...
    "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

    WTFU Sheeple we are being conditioned to accept that which is unconstitutional as the Status Quo...

    "The people never give up their liberties, but under some delusion." - Edmund Burke

  10. JONATHAN W. BLODGETT

    District Attorney
    May 15, 2009 - For immediate release:
    Haverhill Man Pleads Not Guilty To Weapons Charges
    Keni Garcia, 32, of 10 Westford Street, Haverhill, pleaded not guilty today in Haverhill District Court to illegal possession of ammunition, three counts of possession of a high capacity firearm, and three counts of illegal storage of a firearm


    The investigation revealed that Garcia, who had driver’s licenses in both Massachusetts and New Hampshire, recently displayed a large sum of cash in an effort to purchase 55,000 rounds of ammunition in New Hampshire. Investigators also discovered that Garcia had recently purchased at least 20,000 rounds of ammunition and three high capacity pistols in New Hampshire, using a phony New Hampshire address to do so. He is not licensed to possess any type of firearm in Massachusetts.

    A subsequent search of the defendant’s residence revealed thousands more rounds of ammunition, three unsecured high capacity pistols and $25,000 in cash.


    Im all for stocking ammo hell I have friends that get it by the pallet but bottom line is the guy was breaking the law because he was not a Registered Gun Owner ... He did not have permits ... And he purchased them Illegally ... Is not about the amount of ammo he purchased its how he purchased it ... Illegally... He was not legally permitted to purchase AMMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by JUSTSTARTING View Post
    JONATHAN W. BLODGETT
    ...
    Im all for stocking ammo hell I have friends that get it by the pallet but bottom line is the guy was breaking the law because he was not a Registered Gun Owner ... He did not have permits ... And he purchased them Illegally ... Is not about the amount of ammo he purchased its how he purchased it ... Illegally... He was not legally permitted to purchase AMMO
    WRONG AGAIN BUDDY...

    The Second Amendment does not state “SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED” Except… if your zip code is X, your standing at Y, or the type or class of weapon/arm you have or desire to have is Z…
    Or said weapon is carried openly or concealed...
    Or if you fail to follow some Draconian Registration, and Licensing Schemes thereof...

    That being said...

    ...
    "Where is the crime?" (Garcia's Attorney) Socrates de la Cruz asked. The lawyer said Garcia had lived in New Hampshire for three years before recently moving to Haverhill.

    "He bought the guns legally," de la Cruz said. "He never hid the fact that he had them."

    Furthermore, de la Cruz said that when Garcia moved to Haverhill, he had a 60-day grace period to obtain a Massachusetts firearms card.

    "There is no crime committed," he argued, saying there was no evidence that Garcia was shipping guns or ammunition to the Dominican Republic.

    He asked the judge to allow his client "to go back to his job." He said Garcia has worked at a local bakery for three years...
    New Residents & Non-Residents:
    Statutory exemptions under certain circumstances

    Massachusetts G.L.C. 140 129 C Prohibits the unlicensed ownership and/or possession of firearms, rifles, shotguns and or ammunition.
    However there is a 60 day grace period for certain individuals.

    The "Grace Period" described herein applies to the following individuals:


    1. New residents moving into the commonwealth;
    2. A resident of the Commonwealth who returns after having been absent for 180 days;
    3. Any resident upon being released from active service with any of the armed services of the untied states.


    It applies to firearms, rifles, shotguns, and ammunition then in the individuals possession.

    It applies for 60 days after release from the armed services for return or entry into the Commonwealth.

    The statute also allows, in part, for the following:


    • Possession of rifles and shotguns and ammunition by nonresident hunters with valid nonresident hunting licenses during hunting season;


    • Possession of rifles and shotguns and ammunition by nonresidents while on a firing or shooting range;


    • Possession of rifles and shotguns and ammunition by nonresidents and ammunition by nonresidents traveling in or through the commonwealth, providing that any rifles or shotguns are unloaded and enclosed in a case;


    • Possession of rifles and shotguns by nonresidents while at a firearm showing or display organized by a regularly existing gun collectors' club or association.


    "Veni, vidi, vici"

    "The people never give up their liberties, but under some delusion." - Edmund Burke

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